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ok i have never been one to voice an opnion but enough is enough.i have been a nascar fan sense 1969 but no more for me brad kelowiski was fined $25.000 for voicing his opnion about the new fuel injection system tha nascar put in place this season. they took a bailout from the goverment in 2010 and now have taken the fredom of speach away from anyone connected to nascar. to me that is comunisom.:mad:
 
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I am not that familiar with the incident to comment either way, conclusively. It seems apparent that Nascar places restrictions in regards to what drivers can or can't say. This inclusion might possibly be in the contract that drivers sign and agree to when they sign on to be part of the Nascar arena. It is a huge organization, and most definitely have had their rules and regulations reviewed by a knowledgeable legal team. I firmly and wholeheartedly believe in and fully support "Freedom Of Speech". But it seems that certain comments or behavior may be restricted by the format contained within the Nascar contractual agreement. Are you old enough to remember "Fireball Roberts"? My Father was an avid Nascar fan and Richard Petty was one of his favorites.
 
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I've worked with NASCAR as part of a manufacturer's support group and with 4 of the GM teams. There is a clause in the NASCAR license that you agree to inorder to get credentials for entering a track that prohibits criticism, derogatory language, unsafe practices and using unapproved equipment.

Brad was upset to learn that the fuel injection equipment he was running, on that day, to participate in a fuel injection test session was not port or direct injection, but was throttle body injection. That system uses a single or pair of injectors to feed both or individual banks of cylinders. He was expecting a system with 8 injectors programmed specifically for each bank.

You can just imagine the monkey shines that a race motor engineer could dream up in order to gain an advantage (buy power, save fuel, save heat (loss of coolant), limit rpm, balance torque, adapt to cam twist, inop cylinder, adaptive compression (aging during the race), knock sensor, post race power audit, dry ice in the airbox, etc.) once some wires and a controller and a computer are hooked up to the fuel supply. Yes, NASCAR would issue the boxes, but what things the box talks too and what things listen can be a creative genius's best work.

NASCAR does not allow real time or remote control modes in engine or chassis systems management like INDYCAR or Formula1 does. In those leagues, the ones with the most money usually win. NASCAR likes 'creativity'. I loved working with them. For example: steel coated titanium parts: All parts of the chassis must be magnetic steel, tested with a magnet (per the rulebook). And the magnet sticks, just not to titanium....
 
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A quote from Keselowski blasts fuel-injection move ? USATODAY.com
"My dislike list is very long," Keselowski said. "I'm not a big fan of it at all. Carburetor technology is 50 years old but is very simple. The benefit of a carburetor is that it's very, very easy to police. That's why NASCAR stuck with that.

Good gawd! I thought everybody knew carbs have been around for ages! The first one was developed in 1882 to be precise.

It's sad...

zzvyb6's right though! He got fined for criticizing NASCAR. You have to be a bigger name to do so so bluntly or else you have to be much more subtle about it. He's neither apparently. :D
 
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Maybe more publicized, but Mr. Keselowski is but one of a long list that NASCAR has shown it's authority over. Things have changed drastically from the time I remember a friend of a friend sometimes stopping by our shop with a race engine on a pallet in the bed of a pickup, covered up with plastic, on his way to Daytona, Rockingham, etc. He had plenty of NASCAR stories.
 
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I am not that familiar with the incident to comment either way, conclusively. It seems apparent that Nascar places restrictions in regards to what drivers can or can't say. This inclusion might possibly be in the contract that drivers sign and agree to when they sign on to be part of the Nascar arena. It is a huge organization, and most definitely have had their rules and regulations reviewed by a knowledgeable legal team. I firmly and wholeheartedly believe in and fully support "Freedom Of Speech". But it seems that certain comments or behavior may be restricted by the format contained within the Nascar contractual agreement. Are you old enough to remember "Fireball Roberts"? My Father was an avid Nascar fan and Richard Petty was one of his favorites.
i remember fireball and his crash went to see the movie twice i remember all the ford drivers from the early sixties fred lorenzen but the 70's and 80's were the best years of nascar i think. i really don't know when these hush rules were put in nascar but had to be after bill france sr passed on because i have watched drivers and crew chiefs down nascar for years over certain rules.what i would like to see now is the real racers and cheaters such as jeff hamond larry mcrenolds and darell waltrip get out before it falls.thats all i will say bout that.:confused:
 
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Watched some 1980's era NASCAR reruns yesterday as a matter of fact. Better racing, more personalities, just fun. I'm with the OP, it's just not the same any more. I used to be a rabid fan, but now I hardly ever watch. :(
 
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Go to youtube and search for "Sweet daddy d on nascar". pretty well sums up my opinion on nascar. I would post, but the one word that gets used may get me in trouble. :)
 

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