Need First Choice Info

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MikeH

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Thomaston, CT
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2004 JD X575
I am interested in a 60" or 72" Finish Mower, and am 98% set on a First Choice based on everyones feedback and price. Here's the question, the description of the Finish Mowers that has been posted by a varity of folks here on TBN is something like "a Land Pride clone but with improvments". What are the improvments besides the powder coat paint & price (help Jim Mc) ?

Thankyou
 
   / Need First Choice Info #2  
Mike,
You might try sending Jim a private message through TBN or maybe he will be willing to point out some of the improvements here. He is good at answering them. I looked at FC mowers quite extensively at the EXPO in Louisville. Jim showed me a few of the things they do in the plant to make every mower the same as the one next to it when it comes off the line. So fit and finish is a big deal to him. As far as the improvments, Jim would have to answer those questions, but I was highly impressed /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Just my opinion
Jerry
 
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Mike,
I have not owned a Land Pride finish mower so I could not accurately compare the two but I can echo what has been said. The fit and finish on mine was flawless. I am really enjoying using the mower and would be happy to answer any questions I could for you. Feel free to drop an e mail if you like.
nick
 
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I assume we're talking rear discharge here. Also, I need to make a minor disclaimer. I did not have any hand in the design of the First Choice machine and manufacture and assembly are not done in Midwest's Illinois facility. So my observations are from the machines I have seen running. My comments on contruction are limited to my taking both machines completely apart and putting them back together to see how they work and are built, not from an in-plant perspective. In addition, there may have been some design changes to both units over the years, and the units I dissected may not be the same as the ones you see. That being said, here goes.

The deck on the First Choice unit looks similar to the Land Pride at first glance, but there are several differences.

Both decks are break formed. The rounded front corners are welded in on each. The difference is that the First Choice unit has the welded edges ground smooth for a cleaner look and no lip sticking up to trap grass and water. At the rear of the deck the welds on the FC are ground smooth as well. This gives the FC unit the look of a one piece stamped deck without the limitations in forming. The LP leaves the sides sticking up slightly above the deck and welds left as is. The fit and finish on both decks is very good, you just see how the LP is put together easily. The rear center of the FC is rounded rather than pointed to reduce the tendency to dig in going through dips and has skid plates built in on the sides toward the back of the machine. The material of both decks is the same other than a minor variation due to metric material being used on the FC.

The next difference is in the guage wheel mounts. At the time FC started shipping, the Land Pride used a formed channel, while the FC was formed tube. Much stronger and better looking with less corrosion, in my opinion. I've noticed new LP units have gone to tubing as well.

Perhaps the biggest mechanical difference is in the belt tensioning. The FC uses 2 matched belts tensioned by sliding the gearbox. The LP uses 1 belt with tensioning springs and idlers to accomplish enough belt wrap around the drive pulley. Seems to me that the FC is simpler with less slapping of the belts as the unit is powered up and as it encounters clumps and tougher mowing. Just watch the belts on two units with the guards removed and you can see what I'm talking about. A single belt can cause accellerated spindle and gearbox output shaft wear, since the gearbox and the center spindles are constantly loaded from only one side. Of course, everyone's outboard spindles are loaded from one side, so there's no advantage there. I know there was some discussion of gearbox failures on the early single belt LP units, but believe this is sorted out now. Maybe that's why they changed to the Sicma box this year. Now, several of you may prefer the single belt, and as I'm currently building prototypes for an American built mower, I'm certainly going to listen.

Of course, the biggest difference to the eye is the paint. Not sure what system LP uses, but it seems to chalk over very quickly vs the FC powder paint stays bright and shiny for at least the 3 years I've seen them running. Even if both machines were identical, you can spot the difference across the lot by the paint, especially on units which have been used or sitting on the lot a few weeks.

The gearboxes are different models but made by the same company. I believe both units are available with air or solid tires and have similar blade tip speeds. Both use a top clevis and floating hitch blocks for terrain compliance. Both use the same spacer gauge wheel adjustment system. Both machines have a good track record in performance and longevity.
 
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Thanks Jim,
That may be enough info to make him no longer 98% and more towards 100% for FC

Jerry
 
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Jim-
Thankyou for the details, that is what I am looking for /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif.
Jerry, your right !! My First Choice rating is 100% !!

Thanks again
Mike
 
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Did I understand Jim correctly, when he said he was working on a new finsih mower and that the other First Choice Implements were made by his "Midwest" factory--Can anyone clearify what is going on and who really makes First Choice Equipment--I thought "First Choice" was from Wilson NC??--I am confused!
 
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First Choice is located in Wilson, NC. They market products made by several manufacturers including the ground engaging equipment and rotary cutters designed and built by us in Harrisburg, Illinois.
 
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Sorry if I mislead anyone........I was discussing the differences in Rotary Mowers with Jim when I met him in Louisville. But I figured he knew the differences on finish mowers as well........which he did /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Jerry
 
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Jim,
I have one more question pertaining to Finish Mowers in general. The printed literature from various mfg's list "Blade Tip Speed" in FPM. Here's my question, are most gear-box ratio's the same, in other words are all mowers turning the same RPM (based on rear PTO RPM). It seems to me that a longer blade(s) will have a higher FPM than a shorter blade at the same RPM, and does the FPM really make a difference?
Thankyou in advance, I really appreciate /w3tcompact/icons/grin.gif all the time you have spent on our questions.
Mike
 
 

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