Need Help Buying new John Deere....

sosmerc · Jan 14, 2004

Is there a way to find "list pricing" on the internet, so I can figure out if I'm getting any kind of "deal"?
This is my first tractor purchase and I'm finding it worse than buying a car!
I qualify for the 0 down 0% interest program that ends next month. I'm probably going to get:
2210 with loader
Hard-Shell Canopy
Ballast Box
Also want a Rankin BFLA-1200-J forklift attachment (local dealer says I have to buy a 4010 if I want to use this attachment...I don't know why as I'm told the bucket is the same part number for 2210 as the 4010?
I don't need the forks, but I want to weld a 2 inch receiver in the center of the assembly....for moving boats around at my business and putting other attachments that I have into that 2 inch receiver.
Salesman says the 4010 is alot more tractor for only about $450 more than the 2210. I look at the engine specs and I don't see much difference. I'd like to buy fairly close to home, but I'm not comfortable paying what they are asking without knowing whether or not I'm getting at least some discount under full list!!

cowboydoc · Jan 14, 2004

Go the deere website. www.johndeere.com. Go to agricultural and then tractors. Once you get to the tractor you are interested in there will be a build and price section. This will give you the msrp of the tractor. 10% off is good. 15% is better. 20-25% off is great. Anything above 25% and I think you're pretty much buying for cost.

thcri · Jan 14, 2004

sosmerc,

Don't just go to one dealer. Go to a few of them even if it means takin a good drive on a Saturday. Half the fun of buying a CUT is testing them all out. Even if you have a close dealer you may find you like a dealer a ways out. Buying a ways out isn't so bad, just find out up front what his pickup and delivery costs are. As far as the list and you wanting to get a good percentage off I think you will if you shop some. The area you live in does dictate pricing. Another thinkg I would do is check Kubota and New Holland. Not to buy one cause it sounds like your set on Deere but you can use the competitors pricing to keep the Deere dealers honest. You might be surprised what the Deere salesperson will do when you start talking other brands.

If the 4021 is only 450 bucks more I would seriously look at it depending on what you are going to use the tractor for. Fill in your profile and tell us more of what you will use the tractor for and how many acres you have.

murph

JDgreen227 · Jan 14, 2004

I could be wrong, but my understanding is that at the 25% off point off MSRP you are basically paying dealer cost for the tractor and items such as accessories like mid-pto, dual scv, and related items.

For attachments such as FEL, MMM, etc. I have been led to believe that 20% off MSRP is dealer cost. If you or anyone else feels my calculations are incorrect I would be happy to learn otherwise.

The best thing about Deere providing it's MSRP is those figures give a prospective buyer a starting point to calculate from. I got two quotes for NH tractors but not knowing the suggested MSRP made it difficult to compare their products.

art · Jan 14, 2004

At 25% off true list you are well into the guys year end bonus if he gets one. I'm glad you can get that.

JDgreen227 · Jan 15, 2004

Art,

Your choice of words--year end bonus--is funny. I bought my JD 4210 on December 30th, FEL, MMM, Mid-PTO, DSCV and 3rd SCV for 75% of MSRP when the rebates were figured in.
I am sure I'm not the only person to get that kind of deal.

cowboydoc · Jan 15, 2004

I can't imagine that 25% or 20% off would be dealer cost. I pretty much get a straight 23% off of anything that I buy any time, day, or week of the year. Granted I buy alot of equipment but they've got to be making money too or why even bother selling to me.

JDgreen227 · Jan 15, 2004

Not trying to disagree with you, but if you buy a new General Motors car using the GMO plan you are basically buying the vehicle at dealer cost. So why does the dealer bother to sell you the car? Because GM is going to pay the dealer some $$ on the side, I think the term is "holdback". I have wondered if JD does the same thing.

Given the amount of equipment you must buy, your dealer SHOULD provide a price that is close to their cost. I am sure you can get a great deal because you are much better informed about their products than most of their salespeople are and you know what a fair price is. The majority of tractor and equipment buyers would not have the experience you do.

shoppintractors · Jan 15, 2004

<font color="blue">Salesman says the 4010 is alot more tractor for only about $450 more than the 2210. I look at the engine specs and I don't see much difference. </font>

You need to look at the hydraulic capabilities, the size of the tires, tractor weight, frame size, etc., to get a more accurate picture.

Don