Need some help on purchasing a tractor...

   / Need some help on purchasing a tractor... #1  

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I'm looking for some advise from you all. I am looking at purchasing a new CT235 or the CT335, but i'm unsure what tractor to go with since i'm not sure about the Hydrostatic Transmission or the Shuttle Shift and how much horse power will I lose.. Just for all your information I have 10ac. and some small hills and it will be used for just everyday small acre use. I'm Looking for some real life advise... Thanks all you Tractor guys....
 
   / Need some help on purchasing a tractor... #2  
I've never had anything but hst. I also don't know the hp of the models you quouted. I do have a Kioti (who makes the bobcat tractors as understand).
Can you give us the hp of those tractors? I think if your going to be working in all the 10 acres you'd want 35hp or bigger.

But, keep in mind. If you ever plan to haul your tractor, there is a domino effect.
1/2 ton truck
7000lb trailor = less than a 5500lb tractor with loader. (or thereabout)
 
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Thanks RCR, Both of those tractors are 35hp just one is hydro and the other is shuttle. I own a F350 PowerStroke and I have a heavy duty trailer with two 3500lb axles, so i have the equipment to move the tractor back and forth if needed... I'm just looking for some real world information on the better transmission and system to use for my land. I may want to buy a small bailer later for the land, I just don't want to believe everything the sales person is saying, because it may just be about the sale to him and nothing else in this economy.... Thanks to all....
 
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Again, I've never had or driven a shuttle. But with the hst, when you let off the gas, it stops. Loader work is really nice with hst. Ground engaging is better hp with shuttle. I'm just repeating what I've read on TBN.
If you read/search, you will find the hst vs shuttle discussions..
I like my hst and can't imagine having to shift. And if it's like my old truck, I'd be having to engage the brake all the time rather than just letting off the pedal.
 
   / Need some help on purchasing a tractor... #5  
My ck3o kioti book says you lose 1 hp[ck30 gear verses ck30 hst],don't know about 35 hp tractor,probably about the same.
 
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I suppose it is up to what you are used to. I have always had the gear, and with the newer tractors the shuttle. The one thing is that I like being able to use a clutch to engage the pto. Some are electric and hyd engaged, I had a tractor that engaged so violently that it would shear pins on the mower if I didn't just about kill the motor before engaging the pto. I have a hydrostat mower I just picked up and I like that for heavy mowing I don't have to slip the belts to ease along in heavy grass.
With a tractor, they have gearing slow enough to take care of most any needs. I can see were the hyd would be nice for tilling new ground as you could just ease along.
All in all, I am a gear man, I like being able to use the trottle and clutch. Having an engine running at high idle all the time and using a pedal just isn't for me. One more thing comes to mind. I noticed that I would run out of power with the hyd and have to go to the low range in the tranny if pulling a hill, and if pushing the pedal to move it would slow down as you were asking too much of it. Didnt' have to much time on it, so I guess it is something that would just take time to master.
 
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Just for clarification... The CT335 is a 38 HP tractor and is considered a Premium tractor as where the CT235 is a 35 HP tractor. The advantages of stepping up to the 300 or 400 series tractors are:
-Cab/Heat/AC is a factory installed option
-More lift capacity with 3 point and front end loader
-A clutchless system... Independant PTO for on the fly use
-Rear remote 3 point position lever
-Steering breaks

I hope that helps you with your decision. Happy shopping.
 
   / Need some help on purchasing a tractor... #9  
i check out the ct440 hydro what a sweet tractor 41 hp an a 4cly 3 cyl tractors just work a lot harder then 4 if you can afford the ct440 you will be sure enuff power a guy told me once he has had tractors all his life and he`s way above average machanic remember you can always buy to small but it`s a lot harder to buy to big in other words go for the ct440 not much bigger but a hole lot more tractor and good luck with your bobcat the only reason i did not get a bobcat was because the sales person was a real a** so i bought a massey 1533 and the 3cly engine really has to work hard
 
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I was going to go with the CT235 and the dealer told me that right now the 335's can be had for the same price because of Bobcat's current discounts. I ended up going with the 440 because I wanted more horse power at the PTO. Hands down it has so far been worth the money. I run a small grounds maintenance company and my wifes family own 120 acres of heavily timbered/ hilly land. The 335-440 are perfect in size & horse power to handle the work load withour being overpriced. I am using my 440 to clean up vacant lots, run my chipper, you name it.
Three things I would advise, buy one of the weight systems that are available if you plan on doing a lot of bucket work. My first day home we had the back wheels off the ground, maxed out the bucket lifting capacity and had no counterweights for the back. Any of the 3 Pt styles will work. You can always use an implement on the back of course, but that can limit mobility if you are working in tight spaces.

The other thing I would suggest is looking at one of the quick attach or JD iMatch products if you plan on using yoru tractor for multiple implements. I haven't picked one up yet, but having bought the Bobcat for both home and business use it would save a lot of prep time. Less time fiddling with implents = more work done= more free time to spend with family.

Last but not least, if you go with the Bobcat get their version of Quick Tach on your FEL. There are tons of implements that are designed for skid loaders that will work on the front of a properly set up tractor. Your tractor can be a 'kitchen aid mixer' for yoru farm/ business if you pick the correct horsepower and inital set up. You will only Kick yourself down the line when you want to rent or add another tool if it doesn't work with what you have.

Bobcat CT 440, dual rear hydraulics, canopy, Craftsman PRO 48" walkbehind, DR 30" Field & Brush mower- for all of western Washignton's blueberries, Bearcat 8" PTO chipper
 

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