Need Two Trees Identified

[RalphVa]

I volunteer at the extension office and have been a master gardener since 2004. If we cannot identify a tree or shrub or even a flower right away, we advise the person to observe the tree, shrub or flower over 12 months. What does it look like in all 4 seasons, e.g. flowers, catkins, fruit.

I once misidentified a Virginia persimmon (my own) as a yellow bark. They have almost identical bark and leaves. My persimmon, of course, had catkins in spring and fruit in late summer and fall.

Ralph

 

[Buxus]

I am virtually certain the first one is not a box elder, which is in the maple family. I have tons of them on my property. I think it is a red maple.

 

[dieselscout80]

I volunteer at the extension office and have been a master gardener since 2004. If we cannot identify a tree or shrub or even a flower right away, we advise the person to observe the tree, shrub or flower over 12 months. What does it look like in all 4 seasons, e.g. flowers, catkins, fruit.

I once misidentified a Virginia persimmon (my own) as a yellow bark. They have almost identical bark and leaves. My persimmon, of course, had catkins in spring and fruit in late summer and fall.

Ralph

Ralph, you are correct that long-term observation is best.

We have owned this place for more than five years and I have never seen nuts under the 2nd tree.

The first one we have several of that were growing wild when we bought the place. They have a different leaf than the red maple I purchased.

 

[mjw357]

I am virtually certain the first one is not a box elder, which is in the maple family. I have tons of them on my property. I think it is a red maple.

I think you are correct, the red petiole is something I missed on the first glance.