Needles breaking on 336 JD baler

   / Needles breaking on 336 JD baler #1  

angel in ME

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We are trying to figure out what caused our needles to break, they broke 2 differant times. Some have said that the timing is off and that is what my farther thinks happened... can anything else cause this to happen?
Thanks any information is greatly appreciated
Angel
 
   / Needles breaking on 336 JD baler #2  
I'd agree that the timing is off. The manual will have the procedure for fixing the timing problem. If you don't have one, a JD dealer ought to be able to copy the pages covering the 336 timing process...
 
   / Needles breaking on 336 JD baler #3  
There is a safety stop on the baler that should prevent the needles from breakage. On the left side of bale case near the needle frame is a boomerang shaped part connected to a long rod. As soon as the needles start to move, the needle frame moves away from the boomerang and allows the plungerhead stop to move into position to stop the plungerhead arm. When the needles move back into "home" position, the plungerhaed stop is moved back out of the way. There is a spring under the top front cover that pulls the stop out into the stop position. If the spring breaks, the stop won't work and needles are unprotected. Or if spring is ok, then the linkage could be forzen so the spring is not strong enough to move the stop. So, timing should not cause needles to break if safety stop is working ok. You should only shear a pin in flywheel. The biggest reason for broken needles is a broken stop spring alng with a loose or worn out needle/knotter brake. If the brake is loose, it will allow needles to "drift" down into the chamber when they are not supposed to. So tighten the brake and check plungerhead safety stop spring.
 

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   / Needles breaking on 336 JD baler #4  
I used a 336 for many, many years growing up. As I kid I was fascinated with owner's manuals and growing up on a farm provided lots of reading material! I agree, the timing is off, this is the only thing that can break needles.

I suppose it's possible that if you were bailing extremely heavy hay, and running the bailer with a way too much HP tractor at too fast a speed, that the 'chunks' that go in each time could cause too much movement in the bale as the tie begins. But that would be a really extreme case.....

If it IS out of time....you need to adjust it.

Good luck!
 

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