New 3XXX series ?

   / New 3XXX series ? #11  
Hiya,

Gasoline has been used in the past for tractors however, back then gasoline was made of gasoline, not a mix with ethanol.

As the vast majority of sub and compact tractors sit in a cozy garage for the most of their lives, modern US gasoline might very well be the worst fuel option for them. Sitting idle is what causes all the issues with E10 fuel.

A far better solution for non Diesel sub and compact tractors would be propane. Of course, since propane makes about 15% less HP than straight gasoline, and Diesels make about 20% more power per gallon than gasoline, the engine would have to be roughly 50% larger displacement to have the same output as the Diesel. Being 50% larger and taking into account the less BTU per gallon, the propane fueled engine would use about 50% more fuel per hour to perform the same work as the Diesel.

My 2 cents and don't kill me for my math, I took "review mathematics" my last hear in HS LOL

Tom
 
   / New 3XXX series ?
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#12  
Considering the huge amount of diesel cars in France and the equally huge public health problem to come originated in diesel particles our governement is now engaging a strong policy of increasing the number of gas cars and decreasing the one of diesel cars.
Of course, what is true for cars may not be true for tractors where traction power is essential.....
I guess a gas tractor would have zero chances to be sold here in EC.
For info, at the last SIMA (international fair for farm machinery) John Deere introduced a big tractor (6210R) that could run on diesel and on vegetal oil.
Farmers can use their own colza crop to fill their tank ...

Here is the beast : SIMA 2013 : Tracteur polycarburant - Du gnr et/ou des huiles végétales dans le réservoir - YouTube

If the oil prices increase on the international market, Deere will be ready.


Phil
 
   / New 3XXX series ? #13  
The problem is everytime we, as consumers, take steps to be more efficient and save money, the government just makes up another tax. Or tells us we can't do that anymore.
 
   / New 3XXX series ? #14  
Considering the huge amount of diesel cars in France and the equally huge public health problem to come originated in diesel particles our governement is now engaging a strong policy of increasing the number of gas cars and decreasing the one of diesel cars.
Of course, what is true for cars may not be true for tractors where traction power is essential.....
I guess a gas tractor would have zero chances to be sold here in EC.
For info, at the last SIMA (international fair for farm machinery) John Deere introduced a big tractor (6210R) that could run on diesel and on vegetal oil.
Farmers can use their own colza crop to fill their tank ...

Here is the beast : SIMA 2013 : Tracteur polycarburant - Du gnr et/ou des huiles v馮騁ales dans le r駸ervoir - YouTube

If the oil prices increase on the international market, Deere will be ready.


Phil

With DPF's and urea injection, modern diesel engines are virtually harmless. The diesel engines sold today in Europe burn so clean, you could stick your face in the smoke stack and suffer virtually no health problems, unless you did that for 40 years straight. The trade off comes in reliability and cost of operation for the owner. Diesels engines today have never burned cleaner, but they have never been more unreliable and expensive to operate/maintain.
 

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