New buyer looking for advice

   / New buyer looking for advice #1  

gisack

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Hello all, just found this place with google as I tried to figure out what tractor would best suit my needs. I hope this isn't too much for a first post....

The number of similarly sized and priced tractors out there is really overwhelming and I need some help picking one for my needs. I've been web-shopping for hours on local used tractor listings and really stumped.


This is my needs list:
-Tractor must be able to lift 1,700# at the base of bucket/forks and manuever with the load. I can lift with a chain at the point nearest the machine. It won't spend its life with me doing this, but a large part of buying a tractor is for one project I need to finish.
-It must be 4wd as I have some short but steep hills to go up and down.

This is my want list:
-As small as possible... if I can keep it to 58" max width, I can fit it into my under garage storage space. Otherwise, size doesn't matter as it will be staying outside, which I feel bad about doing to an expensive tractor. Happy to remove quick attach implement to achieve this.
-Ability to take what I might grow into down the road... not sure what this is, maybe backhoe, if quick attach front, likely a snowplow. Just rather not be handcuffed but guessing the 1,700# lift capacity will force me into a decent enough sized tractor that this won't be a concern.

Price point: I'm looking at used tractors, rather not get anything over 10 or so years old or too many hours, $10,000 is my target but I'll do $15,000 or so if it really makes sense. I don't have a "budget" but I'll have trouble pulling the trigger the more expensive it is.



I've found a few local that I think I might be interested in but finding accurate lifting or width data is difficult.

I think a Deere 3032 I found will get the job and is listed under 58" without bucket. It's the top of my target price point. http://www.tractorhouse.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=8273779&dlr=1&pcid=2963786


I don't think there is any chance of a Deere 2210 or Kubota BX25 getting the job done but may be my preference. Found a few local. Too light duty???


I like the hp and size if this is accurate. It is listed as 54.3" wide http://www.tractorhouse.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=8251987
or with backhoe http://www.kurtztrading.com/inventory.htm?http://www.tractorhouse.com/list/list.aspx?pcid=3277885&etid=1&dlr=1 (Can't get direct link to work, 2005 New Holland TC30 with backhoe $14,900.)

Or do I need to give up on the width so it fits inside and just let it sit outside and go for an L series Kutoba like these? http://www.tractorhouse.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=8235897&dlr=1&pcid=3277885
http://www.tractorhouse.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=7512127&dlr=1&pcid=2963786

Or this seems like a pretty good deal to me when comparing price of similar sized used equipment New Holland T1510: Vernon Dell Tractor Inventory


Thank you for any input!!! Never had a tractor before, only worked in the drivers seat many years ago.


Edit: Should clarify, I'm lifting cast concrete blocks by chain. I need to be able, worst case, to lift the bottom an 18" tall block 36" off of the ground. Figure 36+18+ 10" for chain, so figure about 5' is my lifting height. of the bottom the bucket max.
 
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   / New buyer looking for advice #2  
None of the tractors that you posted will lift 1700 lbs accept the kubata 4400
 
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#3  
So is it just a case of people posting junk on the internet about how bad their tractor is when it really isn't or am I totally misreading lifting info I'm finding?

Like this says 1614 capacity. So it isn't 1700, but I'm guessing there would be a bit of margin and I could do the rated 1630# of the block I'm picking. Or is that the 3pt. lift capacity, which I've found elsewhere as 1356#

http://www.qualityimplement.com/3032e-4wdhydrostatic-twin-touchtmtransmission.html
 
   / New buyer looking for advice #4  
Power-trac 1445

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Fits all your descriptions except price. Works great on slopes. has some downsides as it is a swiss army knife type of machine. got at lots of things, master of none...
 
   / New buyer looking for advice #5  
So is it just a case of people posting junk on the internet about how bad their tractor is when it really isn't or am I totally misreading lifting info I'm finding?

Like this says 1614 capacity. So it isn't 1700, but I'm guessing there would be a bit of margin and I could do the rated 1630# of the block I'm picking. Or is that the 3pt. lift capacity, which I've found elsewhere as 1356#

Quality Implement

See here's the stats
Loader:

Loader type: John Deere 305

Height (to pin): 84 inches [213 cm]

Dump clearance: 63 inches [160 cm]

Dump reach: 24 inches [60 cm]

Dump angle: 43.8

Rollback angle: 31.4

Breakout force (lift): 1,704 lbs [772 kg]

Lift to full height (at pin): 1,186 lbs [537 kg]

Lift to full height (at 500mm): 845 lbs [383
 
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#6  
See here's the stats

Breakout force (lift): 1,704 lbs [772 kg]

Lift to full height (at pin): 1,186 lbs [537 kg]

Lift to full height (at 500mm): 845 lbs [383


Thanks.... Where are you finding that? I've been using tractordata.com and getting generally larger numbers.

To make sure I have this right, breakout force is what it will lift off of the ground and full height is what it will lift to full height, correct?

If so, is the height/weight ratio basically straight line or parabolic?

Thanks!
 
   / New buyer looking for advice #7  
And be aware that Max lift capacity is at the pins (where a pin-on bucket would attach). As the lift point moves forward, from say a quick attach or forks, the capacity drops. Clamp on forks for a bucket really move the load forward and hurt capacity.
 
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#8  
Thanks. I'm fine with that. If possible, would just use a choker at the base of the forks, or remove bucket and attach at pin. Since I'm lifting with a chain, I can keep it very close.
 
   / New buyer looking for advice #9  
I have to wonder why you want to buy a tractor big enough for one project that doesn't match the needs/wants for the other 99% of your use? Why not rent/hire for the one project and buy for the other 99?
 
   / New buyer looking for advice #10  
LS R3039, 39 HP, quick attach loader, max lift at pins to full height: 2250lbs. New HST units go for around $19k, Shuttle units about $1k less.

Same tractor as the New Holland Boomer 35.
 

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