new construction framing ?

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just noticed all interior doors and 1 exterior door are 81 1/2 " the framers made the jacks 80" is this going to be a problem ?
 
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Gonna be tight on the interior doors, but they should make it unless you need to pick them up some to clear carpet. Then you'll be sawing off doors.
Exterior door probably won't go......most of them need 82 1/2.
 
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With the addition of 3/4" hardwood flooring, you definetely need to increase the height.
 
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Openings 80" or just the loose jack 80"?
A 80" jack on a typ. 1 1/2" plate will give you your 81 1/2".
 
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Door headers at 82 1/2" off rough sub floor. Leaves options open for 3/4" hardwood, high pile carpet and pad, or quarry tile. Doors are typically 80" high plus clearance under door above finished floor covering plus head jam 3/4".
 
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so do all these openings need to be re - framed ? this should have been common knowledge for a contractor correct.
 
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Your framing contractor should have known better. Better fix the issue now otherwise your interior trim guys will be tearing their hair out and costing you a lot more money.

Any openings that will be drywall wrapped might be OK but if you are planning on using any pre hung door units the rough openings will be too short.

I've had over 25 years experience in the trim carpentry trade and all our framers used 82 1/2 rough openings.
 
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Your framing contractor should have known better. Better fix the issue now otherwise your interior trim guys will be tearing their hair out and costing you a lot more money.

Any openings that will be drywall wrapped might be OK but if you are planning on using any pre hung door units the rough openings will be too short.

I've had over 25 years experience in the trim carpentry trade and all our framers used 82 1/2 rough openings.

In my 30 yrs of carpentry, door jacks were always 81" making the R O off sub-floor 82 1/2 ". Change them now and save a lot of headaches
 
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I've run it to this problem from time to time, are the tops of the door openings crippled down? or solid headers?
If solid headers here's what I have done and after already been sheet-rocked, It requires cutting out the 1 1/2 pc of drywall along with the bottom 2x4 of the header, saw-zall with a metal cutting blade to cut the nails, Not to cut all the way to the stud, being sure to stop even at the inside of the jack-stud, then cut up to the 2 x 10 pull out the bottom 2x4 and replace with a 1x4, this way will leave the ends of the 2 x 4 in place to support the header and the 1x4 will hold the small pc. in place, Though I usually shoot a couple trim nails into the end blocks for safe measure, Replacing with a 1x4 will give you 3/4 inch more space,
If the door openings are crippled-stud down this means there is no or minimum weight load over the doors, and you can still cut the bottom 2 x 4 out, if you choose to cut the cripples off and raise the 2 x 4 up, you will then replace the jack-studs with longer ones, or could do same procedure as describe with solid header,

I only hope that the width for the doors are correct....and not too narrow:cool:
Remember you'll need to set the doors on 1/2 inch blocks for carpet....... 3/4 block for Tile...... the thin side of a shim or approx 3/16 for vinyl,
unless you use a sub-floor material then be sure to allow for it as well,
 

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