New DS4510 with KL402!!

[Artful Dodger]

Just got off the phone with my closest Kioti dealer. He says he's gonna eat his competitions lunch with this one. It's a 45HP tractor listing at $16,500. It qualifies for a free loader, which is a KL402. If you want a Backhoe, this one takes the KB 2485. Don't know anymore about it, just yet. Anybody heard about this one? Anyone know some more details?

 

[carpenter383]

Sounds like a great deal, maybe I shoulda waited !! I'm interested to know the difference in the kl402 loader specs. I wonder if it's an economy model or something. That price must have been for a gear tractor right?

 

[BTI]

Yes it's an economy model.
Only available as a geardrive.
It's pretty much the old DK40/45 with a straight gear trans.
No synchros, but is shuttle shift. No remotes standard.
Loader is basically a 401 with a subframe to fit the tractor and the loader valve mounted on the loader frame.

BTI

 

[bluechip]

We just got one of these in and I like it even better than I did at the dealer meeting, still has hydro/elec. PTO clutch, manual front drive engagement. nice rubber mat on flat floor, deck is mounted on rubber blocks and is solid to step on, no tilt, base seat, but a quality unit at a fantastic price and with the KIOTI 4 year warranty to boot...

 

[IslandTractor]

I hope you guys do well with it. Sounds like a L3400/L4400 killer to me, especially matched with the KL401.

 

[Artful Dodger]

That's what I was thinking I.T. I've been looking at the L3400, and L4400. Price wise this thing's a better looking deal, not to mention a lot more tractor.
The best I got on a L3400, with FEL, was 17,500; plus another couple of hundred for SSQA. Add the BH75A, or if you're wise the BH76, and your looking at over 24,000. Then consider the L4400, dressed out as I just mention, and you're looking at about 30,000.
The new Kioti model with the 2485 BH; seems to be the equivalent of the L4400 with the BH90, or pretty darn close. I'm still considering the DK45S, and maybe the DK55, but I my end up going this economy route. Art

 

[IslandTractor]

That's what I was thinking I.T. I've been looking at the L3400, and L4400. Price wise this thing's a better looking deal, not to mention a lot more tractor.

Actually the DK35se, DK40se and DK45se compare very favorably to the L3400 and L4400 so long as the Kioti dealer is giving a similar percentage discount on list as the Kubota dealer. The DKse line is considerably more feature rich than the basic L series so at roughly equivalent price points you get a lot more tractor. What is interesting about the new DS line is that the tractor has relatively closely matched features to the Kubota basic L but should have a list price considerably lower. That gives the Kioti dealer the ability to either undercut the L price or match price and provide a lot more tractor for the money.

Now, if Bobcat would just end their insane pricing I'd imagine things would start to look better for the Kioti dealers.

 

[Artful Dodger]

"Insane pricing?" YEP!!!
I've been there, and they seem pretty motivated. It may be too hard to pass up, and that's coming from a Tennessee Vol Fan. Our blood runs a certain color down here, and we like Dawgs dressed in Big Orange, but that white cat's looking hard to pass up.

They're not only giving away the free loader, but they're also giving the $3500 instant rebate. That's if you dump the free financing from Bobcat. I was also told that they're working on extra Hydraulics for the front end, an extra pump or something(add on), so you can use more of their skid steer implements. Gives you more Hydraulic flow to your implement.

Bear in mind: I'm not going to buy a tractor because of it's color. Not to say I wouldn't pass up on a pink model, but I'm really growing fond of the DK45S and DK55. I wish that I'd looked at Bobcat first, because I believe it would have ended my search. Art