New flail mower

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bja105

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I had an expensive weekend. I bought a four bottom plow, a 10' transport disc, and this 7' Ford Flail mower. I am not sure what the model number is, can anyone tell from the tag?
I am looking for a manual, or any maintenance instructions. Specifically what to put in the gear box, and how full?
 

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/ New flail mower #2  
That is a Ford 907 and fill the gear box to the level of the sight plug on the back, with 80-90 weight gear oil. If there is a bottom plug, drain and flush it first.
 
/ New flail mower #3  
I had an expensive weekend. I bought a four bottom plow, a 10' transport disc, and this 7' Ford Flail mower. I am not sure what the model number is, can anyone tell from the tag?
I am looking for a manual, or any maintenance instructions. Specifically what to put in the gear box, and how full?

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I want to welcome you as the newest Member of the Flail Mower Nation.

If you call messsicks you can get a manual for it.

Happy Mowing
 
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Plenty of 907 parts (and manual) on eBay, and the FlailMaster folks are good to work for as well. The New Holland (Ford) model number of the seven foot 907 is 22-109. And you'll find the complete parts list - to include diagrams - on any New Holland dealer site. As a matter of convenience, I usually defer to Messicks website (just click on any of the categories under where it says "No Description")

//greg//
 
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My goodness!! I think I bought the twin to your mower the same day! I picked it up from a fellow north of Me it is as old as dirt but he fired it up on his tractor and it seemed to run ok, now just have to get rid of all this snow so I can try it out!! Probably going in for blasting and painting, get it all prettied up, re-decaled and put on the spare board, I also just picked up a new JD 390 Flail. It looks like My local Kubota dealer is finally gotten serious about having me for a customer,( Gee, after 2 new tractors 2 ZT Mowers and an RTV and a half dozen implements) I was on My way to make a deal on a new Kioti 70 HP. tractor as a replacement for the one I had stolen last November, and he wouldn't allow Me to leave until he gave me a reasonable deal on a new M7060HDCC12, Hmmm that makes it a full stable of Kubota's here.
I hope you have a blast with your flail. I think you will be impressed, with it. It looks it is a snap to change cutters on them, I watched a little Utube video last week on that, just turn the plate, and pull the rod and off they come and reverse the program to re-install.

Cheers

Roger
 
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Since I also recently bought an old 907 flail, I thought I'd join the thread. Vegetation around here hasn't had enough growth time to necessitate its use yet, but I will probably get to try it out soon. Like you Roger I did get to see it run on the sellers tractor, but time will tell if it is problem free or not. I'm guessing not. Most old equipment like this usually requires some "tweaking". This is my first foray into the flail business so I'm curious how I'll feel about it after some use. I kept the rotary cutter so I still have options.
 

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Since I also recently bought an old 907 flail, I thought I'd join the thread. Vegetation around here hasn't had enough growth time to necessitate its use yet, but I will probably get to try it out soon. Like you Roger I did get to see it run on the sellers tractor, but time will tell if it is problem free or not. I'm guessing not. Most old equipment like this usually requires some "tweaking". This is my first foray into the flail business so I'm curious how I'll feel about it after some use. I kept the rotary cutter so I still have options.

Jerry, I think that is a 917 rather than a 907. The floating lower link attachment points are a 917 feature (shown in your 1st pic).

PS I love my 917.
 
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Jerry, I think that is a 917 rather than a 907. The floating lower link attachment points are a 917 feature (shown in your 1st pic).

PS I love my 917.
Thanks for the heads up dieselscout. Is the floating lower link a useful feature? How so? What are other differences between the 907 and 917? Is the 917 a newer model than the 907?

Any information/recommendations you have regarding the 917 and its use is appreciated. I'm new to the flail world.

I thought of one other question just as I was finishing. At what height do you set your rear roller? If I'm not mistaken, there are 3 height options for the roller.
 
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The setting that places the roller in its lowest position works good for lawn type cutting. I use check chains to setup for pasture clipping cutting at about 8". Yes the 917 is newer than the 907. I sharpen my knives with a angle grinder with a flapwheel mounted on it.
 
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Thanks for the heads up dieselscout. Is the floating lower link a useful feature? How so? What are other differences between the 907 and 917? Is the 917 a newer model than the 907? Any information/recommendations you have regarding the 917 and its use is appreciated. I'm new to the flail world. I thought of one other question just as I was finishing. At what height do you set your rear roller? If I'm not mistaken, there are 3 height options for the roller.
If it's the 917H (there are several 917 variants) note that there are two sets of pin holes (four total) on each pair of lower link brackets. With no pin(s) inserted, the link moves several inches up and down. This aids in positioning them while attaching to the rear lift links on your tractor. You can then re-pin after connection, depending upon the angle at which you want the mower to operate. If you want it rigid, use four pins (one above, one below each mower link). If you want it to rock either backward or forward during operation, use only on pin per wide (either above or below the mower links). Or none if that suits you. I use two per side personally, and leave the floating job to my tractor rear lift links.

Another approach to using those hole sets is - once mounted to the tractor -
(a) insert 4 pins for lifting and carrying the mower to/from the mowing area
(b) remove pins to permit float while mowing. Remove 2 for a little float, remove all 4 four full float.
How you ultimately elect to use them is generally a simple matter of trial and error relative to the conditions under which you're mowing.

I've got a 20-some page version of the owner manual, but the file won't upload here. I can email to you a PDF copy. The 907 and 917 share a lot of parts, but I can really only speculate that the 907 is consumer grade and the 917 is commercial grade. I say that because one of the things they don't share is the drive belt. The 907 takes single V-belts, the 917 takes a banded double V-belt. That would then suggest a lighter duty transmission and drive pulley system.

I set my rear roller in the lowest of the 3 holes, which in turn gives me the highest gross cutting height. YMMV. Regardless of the roller setting, fine tuning of the cutting height is done at the toplink. FWIW, knives are best reshaped and sharpened on a bench grinder. But if/when I am in a hurry, I do any necessary touchups on the carrier, using an air powered in-line air grinder fitted with a coarse emery bit

//greg//
 
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I broke a belt on my new mower today. My fault, I was mowing thick grass, too fast, with the cutters too low. I thought I got a wiff of burning belt, but I ignored it.


Anyway, its a ford 907. Its about 7' wide. To refresh memories, here it is.
What size belt do I need, or a link to an online supplier? Does Tractor Supply have anything this heavy? Does anyone have a link to a manual, or do I have to buy one?
 

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I broke a belt on my new mower today. My fault, I was mowing thick grass, too fast, with the cutters too low. I thought I got a wiff of burning belt, but I ignored it.


Anyway, its a ford 907. Its about 7' wide. To refresh memories, here it is.
What size belt do I need, or a link to an online supplier? Does Tractor Supply have anything this heavy? Does anyone have a link to a manual, or do I have to buy one?


Use messicks home page and type ford 907 in the search box.




I dont know off hand what size V belt you need BUT

you can get good belts just about anywhere.

As long as you have the old belt they can measure it
for you and get you a new one.


Just be sure to ask for a kevlar belt (green belt) and you will be fine.
 
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I believe you will find this to be a metric belt. Google ford 907 flail mower.
 
/ New flail mower #15  
I broke a belt on my new mower today. My fault, I was mowing thick grass, too fast, with the cutters too low. I thought I got a wiff of burning belt, but I ignored it.


Anyway, its a ford 907. Its about 7' wide. To refresh memories, here it is.
What size belt do I need, or a link to an online supplier? Does Tractor Supply have anything this heavy? Does anyone have a link to a manual, or do I have to buy one?

Use messicks home page and type ford 907 in the search box.




I dont know off hand what size V belt you need BUT

you can get good belts just about anywhere.

As long as you have the old belt they can measure it
for you and get you a new one.


Just be sure to ask for a kevlar belt (green belt) and you will be fine.

I believe you will find this to be a metric belt. Google ford 907 flail mower.

I did some googling, and found this thread.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/new-holland-owning-operating/239223-v-belts-ford-907-fail.html

I will see if I can find a C53 belt for my pre 1970, non-spring idler. The thread says the post-1970 models have a springed idler and use a C52 belt.

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ALL V-belts and roller Bearings are metric.
 
 

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