New Holland and Shibaura

[yoder]

Does Shibaura have a Model that is it's own version of the New Holland TC 30 /1510 ?

 

[Kernopelli]

Since no one has jumped in, I'll give this a stab. About the closest thing I see on Google would be the current ST330/333. Looks like they are sold in Europe, Asia, Africa and Australia but I don't believe they are available in the U.S market though. They appear to all use a Shibaura 91.2 or 91.3 c.i engine ( depending on who's specs you look at) and the Shibaura models are available in gear and hydrostat drive versions. So, to answer your question...yes, surprisingly ( to me) there does appear to be a Shibaura branded version of the TC30/ 1510.

 

[Kernopelli]

I should have gone further in my first response and explained that the ST330/333 specs show that they are very similar to the TC30/1510 They all share an engine of the same design,displacement, HP and cylinders and Shibaura offers their models with the same 9x3 gear option or 3 range HST and the tractors all share the same hydraulics ratings and general dimensions. Can I say that every part from one tractor fits on the other? No, I've learned from the older grey market machines and their cross overs that often times machines can be very similar but share less than appearances would lead you to believe. However, it's still hard to imagine that these machines are not sharing a number of major components or at least step siblings. As well, the Shib ST445 appears to use a similar engine and 12x12 trans as the NH TC45. Didn't compare the smaller tractors but there might be similarity there as well. Anyway, here's a pic of the ST330/333

 

[yoder]

Thanks for the reply. I was curious. I own a TC 30

 

[art]

Though the years we have worked on some gray-market tractors as well as there american relatives.

What we have often found is that much of the tractors are the same but for Americans they have added more safety items to keep us alive and undamaged if possible. We have found that you do have to be sharp! Often with excavators they may look the same but hoses might be different sizes as well as pumps with different capacities for the same size frame machine. The same for tractors only we are used to them a little more so our mistakes aren't quite as costly to us when trying to order replacements!

The american tractors will normally have more safety switches for the clutch, neutral starts and operator presence controls.

We have also seen where when the tractors are twenty years old and the manufacturers have changed who they are retailing through that these parts have not been available.

 

[777777]

So New Holland and Shibaura have split
and
Yanmar and Cub have split, would be interesting in Shibaura and Cub got together and started marketing in the North American markets.

Shibaura has equipment that meets EPA standards so would not be a big stretch.

Plus, they also have a stategic relationship with Excel Industries ( Hustler ) for the engines in some Zero Turns so they do have some small visibility in the U.S market.

I also think they have something going on with Perkins and are localed in Georgia.

 

[jinman]

Yanmar and Cub have split, would be interesting in Shibaura and Cub got together and started marketing in the North American markets.

Shibaura has equipment that meets EPA standards so would not be a big stretch.

Other than the gray market tractor dealers, Shibaura and Yanmar have few dealerships. In order to sell at quantities that make economic sense and provide profits, both of these brands need a huge dealer network. Deere was great for Yanmar in the past and Case-New Holland was good for Shibaura. Without those kinds of relationships, I doubt there is any hope for those of us who really like our Yanmar or Shibaura based machines. I just don't see it happening. With the exception of Kubota, a large direct marketed Japanese based tractor market is not likely to happen. I don't think we will see Mitsubishi or Iseki dealers either. There's too much competition from Korea, India, and China.

 

[MrWhippy]

The new Workmaster tractors are Shibaura powered. Perhaps they've (NH) only dropped the CUT line up as a cost savings strategy rather than completely replacing all Shibaura.