Please don't ask how it happened, but my new B7510 ended up in the pond. I have removed and dryed out air filter, drained out oil, removed oil filter and drained water from fuel line. Any suggestions about how to get up and running would be much appreciated.
New Kubota takes the plunge
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Oh come on... You know we have to ask... /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
Was it running when it went in? If so there is a good chance you've got water where you don't want it... Sorry for about the accident - hopefully nobody got hurt.
Was it running when it went in? If so there is a good chance you've got water where you don't want it... Sorry for about the accident - hopefully nobody got hurt.
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A friend of mine took his diesel Ford pickup through a stream a few years ago not realizing the air intake was low (forget the details of where it was, but somewhere behind the grill...
Anyway, water in the engine is a bad thing...bent a couple connecting rods and did some other damage.
Point I am trying to make is you don't want to be turning over the engine and sucking ANY water in, that might somehow have gotten into the intake tubing on the engine side of the air filter.
I guess if the engine was running and it went under...that could be pretty concerning...
Perhaps you could take the glow plugs out and see if there was any water in there? Don't have a clue about that...
Hope all turns out for the best...
Any pictures to share by chance? There...I did not ask how, but would like to see the what happened part... /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
Anyway, water in the engine is a bad thing...bent a couple connecting rods and did some other damage.
Point I am trying to make is you don't want to be turning over the engine and sucking ANY water in, that might somehow have gotten into the intake tubing on the engine side of the air filter.
I guess if the engine was running and it went under...that could be pretty concerning...
Perhaps you could take the glow plugs out and see if there was any water in there? Don't have a clue about that...
Hope all turns out for the best...
Any pictures to share by chance? There...I did not ask how, but would like to see the what happened part... /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
Wow, did you have it so deep, water got in the fuel tank from above?
If you can bring yourself to post how it happened, it might be a lesson for the rest of us not to do what you did.
I really think I'd seek dealer info or checkout prior to cranking it over. As was mentioned, if you have water in the cylinder, water doesn't compress much. Cranking the engine will have the cylinders stop at the water, causing the connecting rods to break. Very expensive............
I don't know if a dealer can check for water in cylinders without dismantling the motor or not. If it was running when it went under, my guess is the damage is already done to the motor parts.
Pls keep us up to date on the progress.
Ron
If you can bring yourself to post how it happened, it might be a lesson for the rest of us not to do what you did.
I really think I'd seek dealer info or checkout prior to cranking it over. As was mentioned, if you have water in the cylinder, water doesn't compress much. Cranking the engine will have the cylinders stop at the water, causing the connecting rods to break. Very expensive............
I don't know if a dealer can check for water in cylinders without dismantling the motor or not. If it was running when it went under, my guess is the damage is already done to the motor parts.
Pls keep us up to date on the progress.
Ron
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I think I'd take it to the dealer and trade it in, as is, that is...... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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I'm sorry that your second post had to be on something like this. If you had to dry out the air filter and got water in the fuel line, you really turned that thing into an orange submarine, didn't you??? The ROP must have been sticking out of the water like a periscope. I'm desperate to know but you said, "don't ask!!!" so I won't.
I think I'd take it to the dealer. The damage may have already been done if you got water in the engine.
I think I'd take it to the dealer. The damage may have already been done if you got water in the engine.
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I'm assuming you haven't started it yet... If you haven't... DON'T!!!. Water doesn't compress..you will bend rods or screw up the head. Any attempt to start the engine may cause more damage. You must realize, the engine might be blown already...I hope not, but it's possible.
First, I strongly suggest you let the dealer take care of this...if water got in the cylinders, you could do some serious damge up to destroying the engine. If you follow the instructions below, you will void your warranty and may do more damage....so, again... LET THE DEALER FIX THIS!!!
Drain the oil...if you can drop the oil pan, do that. Make sure you get as much water out of the engine as you can. Use a new oil filter and replace the oil.
Pull all the injectors. Mark them so you know which ones go where (otherwise, you mught throw the engine out of time. Remove the glow plugs too.
Crank the engine. It is preferable to do this by hand (use a socket on the fan pulley nut). With the injectors and glow plugs out, it should turn pretty easily with a 2 foot breaker bar. If it doesn't, there may be a bent rod. Don't go any further...take it to the dealer.
If water pumps out of the injector/glow plug holes, keep going until you get as much out as possible. This is a good time to drain any fuel in the system to remove any water that may still be in there.
Re-install the glow plugs and injectors and any other parts of the fuel system that were removed.
Now, you can try and start the engine. If you hear any loud clanking noises... STOP!. There is a potential of bent rods now.
Drain ALL other fluids. That means ALL other fluids. Water could have got in through any vent holes, so all lubricants must now be considered contaminated. Replace all fluids and filters. If you wish, you can blow out the system using LOW PRESSURE AIR 15 PSI MAX).
I don't know how your tractor is insured, but if you took out a loan, you probably had to get it on your home owner's insurance or buy a policy. As long as this incident wasn't purposeful (I'm sure it wasn't), insurance should cover it. Any work you do to attempt a repair may void any insurance claims. I'm sure you feel like an idiot..I know I would...but don't make a bad situation worse!
Good luck
First, I strongly suggest you let the dealer take care of this...if water got in the cylinders, you could do some serious damge up to destroying the engine. If you follow the instructions below, you will void your warranty and may do more damage....so, again... LET THE DEALER FIX THIS!!!
Drain the oil...if you can drop the oil pan, do that. Make sure you get as much water out of the engine as you can. Use a new oil filter and replace the oil.
Pull all the injectors. Mark them so you know which ones go where (otherwise, you mught throw the engine out of time. Remove the glow plugs too.
Crank the engine. It is preferable to do this by hand (use a socket on the fan pulley nut). With the injectors and glow plugs out, it should turn pretty easily with a 2 foot breaker bar. If it doesn't, there may be a bent rod. Don't go any further...take it to the dealer.
If water pumps out of the injector/glow plug holes, keep going until you get as much out as possible. This is a good time to drain any fuel in the system to remove any water that may still be in there.
Re-install the glow plugs and injectors and any other parts of the fuel system that were removed.
Now, you can try and start the engine. If you hear any loud clanking noises... STOP!. There is a potential of bent rods now.
Drain ALL other fluids. That means ALL other fluids. Water could have got in through any vent holes, so all lubricants must now be considered contaminated. Replace all fluids and filters. If you wish, you can blow out the system using LOW PRESSURE AIR 15 PSI MAX).
I don't know how your tractor is insured, but if you took out a loan, you probably had to get it on your home owner's insurance or buy a policy. As long as this incident wasn't purposeful (I'm sure it wasn't), insurance should cover it. Any work you do to attempt a repair may void any insurance claims. I'm sure you feel like an idiot..I know I would...but don't make a bad situation worse!
Good luck
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I realize this is probably too late, but with 2 and 4 stroke gas engines, most of the time you hydrolock an engine and bend a rod, you can't hear it. If you bend one rod on a multi-cylinder engine, it's tough to tell sometimes. I repair snowmobiles/ATV's/etc for a living, so bent rods from hydrolock isn't too rare (Captain Morgan says the ATV can float like a boat and go through the moat...WHEN was the Captian ever right?).
If you were on the tractor at the time and shut the throttle down before entering the water, you're likely safe. Before you start it, remove the glow plugs and turn over by hand to be sure. Also remember the cylinders and rings will start rusting with the water in there so regardless you will want to get it out of there.
Sorry to hear about your misfortune. No mention that anyone was injured, so that is a good thing.
Just my 2¢.
If you were on the tractor at the time and shut the throttle down before entering the water, you're likely safe. Before you start it, remove the glow plugs and turn over by hand to be sure. Also remember the cylinders and rings will start rusting with the water in there so regardless you will want to get it out of there.
Sorry to hear about your misfortune. No mention that anyone was injured, so that is a good thing.
Just my 2¢.
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So Len....how did you make out?