New Purchase Flail mower with Hammers

[AB4D]

Hi,

I am seeking opinions regarding a Flail mower with Hammers (CAT 1). Use is mainly to cut and maintain a perimeter trail around a 28 acre forestry parcel I own. The land is mainly flat, no rocks (on the NC coast). Small pine trees/weeds/etc are the main thing to be kept cut.

My main limitation is likely the Tractor's 35hp. Manual or Hydro offset would be a plus as I have a rear remote for that.

Thanks

 

[TractorTYMe]

These flail mowers from Nova-Tractor are some pretty heavy duty mower. I'm thinking of going with one of these after I've sold my ditch bank flail mower that was a little too small for what I do. They use Italian Comer Industries gear boxes.

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[cbg8670]

I have an ironcraft( formerly Titan in Tennessee) it has been a good little flail. It comes with hammers installed and sent box of y blades as well..I think it sourced from Italy

 

[leonz]

Hi,

I am seeking opinions regarding a Flail mower with Hammers (CAT 1). Use is mainly to cut and maintain a perimeter trail around a 28 acre forestry parcel I own. The land is mainly flat, no rocks (on the NC coast). Small pine trees/weeds/etc are the main thing to be kept cut.

My main limitation is likely the Tractor's 35hp. Manual or Hydro offset would be a plus as I have a rear remote for that.

Thanks

Hello and good afternoon AB4D,

Your mules available PTO horsepower places a limit on how large an orchard and vineyard shredder flail mower with
hammer knives you can have. One pair of remotes limits you to a simple side shift model which will be an easier implement to take care of.

1. The Maschio brand the Giraffa S model with the 3.8 foot cut with 24 hammer knives is as large a flail with side shift is the largest shredder you could consider for a flail shredder with your mules available PTO horsepower and useable torque.
With the 5 foot Giraffa S flail shredder you will be using all of your available horsepower and torque with little
power in reserve. With the 4 foot flail shredder you will have plenty of reserve power to use.
The double acting swinging side shift frame design that the Maschio unit uses avoids having cut brush and dust build up on a side shift hydraulic cylinder that is center mounted on the flail mower shroud and it can cut a wider swath
when extended.

2. the Del Morino Funny Top model has a manual side shift that is 8" left or right of center and is well within your mules PTO horsepower and has no hydraulic cylinders.

 

[AB4D]

Thanks everyone for the input. Really, searching around for available implements in a decent size for the tractor (6 foot - 72" inches). The choice is so limited, I am seriously considering trading up to a higher horsepower tractor. I purchased this tractor last year, and haven't put 15 minutes of time on it, due to the lack of available implements.

We'll see what the dealer can do on a trade.

 

[workinonit]

If you decide to get an offset flail, get a hydraulically controlled unit. I bought a Maschio Tigre 300 that was mechanical slide and it didn't take me long to go to Ag South and get a cylinder for it. I'm not a fan of ditch bank flails if you are just cutting flat places.

 

[John0829]

Really, searching around for available implements in a decent size for the tractor (6 foot - 72" inches). The choice is so limited, I am seriously considering trading up to a higher horsepower tractor.

???? Really there are hundreds of implements made in that size. Other than a flail what implements are you looking for that cannot be found in a 6' width? Every implement I have is a 6' except for the box blade and rotary hoe which are 7'.

 

[Carl_NH]

Befire you change the tractor why not get a 6' brush hog for this - you can find them used and your 35HP will run it fine. You wont have a lot of $ tied if you go used and if you need a different result then go flail

 

[workinonit]

I think you need a brand new 75 HP tractor.

 

[nyone]

Flat, no rocks and cutting small softwood trees and grass..why do you think you need anything but a standard flail?

 

[Torvy]

???? Really there are hundreds of implements made in that size. Other than a flail what implements are you looking for that cannot be found in a 6' width? Every implement I have is a 6' except for the box blade and rotary hoe which are 7'.

I think the point here (not sure) was that he wants 6' implements but the tractor HP is not quite up to the tasks he wants to complete.

My new flail is 175cm or about 5.7 feet...it also offsets about half of that.

As to hammers versus knives, hammers are made for hitting saplings and small brush. Knives are made for grass. Right tool, right job.

 

[TractorTYMe]

I think the point here (not sure) was that he wants 6' implements but the tractor HP is not quite up to the tasks he wants to complete.

My new flail is 175cm or about 5.7 feet...it also offsets about half of that.

As to hammers versus knives, hammers are made for hitting saplings and small brush. Knives are made for grass. Right tool, right job.

Torvy, let us know how it performs. I'm thinking about getting the Nova Tractor flail due to its sheer size of the hammers.

 

[Torvy]

Torvy, let us know how it performs. I'm thinking about getting the Nova Tractor flail due to its sheer size of the hammers.

I hope I get a chance to use it soon. Probably be a week or two. Just got the OK to start moving into the house. Plus lots of rain the next couple of days. Now I need to make sure I have the right oils, greases (and more diesel). Need to check on hoses, too. I don't remember what was included.

 

[AB4D]

???? Really there are hundreds of implements made in that size. Other than a flail what implements are you looking for that cannot be found in a 6' width? Every implement I have is a 6' except for the box blade and rotary hoe which are 7'.

It's not width alone that is the issue, it's the combination of width and horsepower, specifically in a brush mulcher. I am looking at the Baumalight MP360, but with a 30-35 HP PTO it's limited to 2 - 2.5 inches of capacity.

 

[AB4D]

Befire you change the tractor why not get a 6' brush hog for this - you can find them used and your 35HP will run it fine. You wont have a lot of $ tied if you go used and if you need a different result then go flail

Carl, thank for the suggestion. However, I'm not too impressed with the finished product of the brush hog. I had a rotary cutter before, and it leaves a lot of stuff standing, and I am working forest trails, and it's adds 6 feet to the rear of the tractor, and that limits the ability to turn around.

 

[AB4D]

I think the point here (not sure) was that he wants 6' implements but the tractor HP is not quite up to the tasks he wants to complete.

My new flail is 175cm or about 5.7 feet...it also offsets about half of that.

As to hammers versus knives, hammers are made for hitting saplings and small brush. Knives are made for grass. Right tool, right job.

That is the exact issue. I am cutting forestry trails with a lot of regenerative growth. I already had a forestry mulcher/track loader open the trail that I need to widen and maintain. However, at $4,000 a visit, I'd rather tackle the job and maintain the trails myself.

 

[camshawn]

I have a Maschio Giraffina (60”) which is an offsetting and tilting flail with hammers. It needs 2 hydraulic aux circuits to offset and to tilt. 36 hp drives it just fine except in long grass ( 3 to 4 foot long). Then I just lift it 3 inches and slow down a little. This works for me. I can cut down along the pond or ditch as needed or flat. The offset means I cut off to the side and not flatten the grass before it is cut.

 

[AB4D]

Again, thanks to all that responded. I looked over flails and they are not really designed for the type of work I need to do. I need something more aggressive so the plan is to obtain a Baumalight Brush Mulcher, and a higher horsepower (60hp) tractor. A dealer gave me a trade in quote for my 10 month old L3560 HSTC LE with 2.0 hours of time. The quote is not great, but not a deal breaker either.

 

[workinonit]

I think the point here (not sure) was that he wants 6' implements but the tractor HP is not quite up to the tasks he wants to complete.

My new flail is 175cm or about 5.7 feet...it also offsets about half of that.

As to hammers versus knives, hammers are made for hitting saplings and small brush. Knives are made for grass. Right tool, right job.

Just a note. I have hammers on my Maschio 10' flail and they cut grass better than the knives do.