Hi to all and thanks for the replies. My property is mostly wooded. 10 years ago when I bought my Husky lawn tractor/mower it was all I could afford and small for the job, I didn't want to spend much time repairing a used tractor, although I could see my self on a 8n .. that wasn't going to happen. Every two weeks or so I or one of my sons ride for 5 or more hours cutting a field and the grass surrounding the house. 5 years ago I was looking at Z turns at the local Cub Cadet Dealer when I saw the Yanmar Cubs Cadet and put the Z Turn off to the side .... *two weeks ago i was up in Boonville for the woodsman expo where I saw the TYM tractor with a front end loader ... very nice!*I am in Cairo/East Durham NY. there is Kubota, Cub Cadet dealer close by Kioti with in a hours ride?*