North Polar region

[Egon]

Study finds Arctic seabed afire with lava-spewing volcanoes

Don't know how many of you are familiar with this occurrence but I'm wondering how this activity will effect the climate and ice conditions.

 

[Wayne County Hose]

Na, they have it all wrong. Everybody knows that the ice cap is melting because of global warming. i read an article that said the north pole could be all water this summer, because of global warming. It can't be anything else.

 

[Timber]

We have some real environmental problems going on & I'm not so sure people realize the gravity of the impact it will have on all of us. West Nile has just mutated into a new strain because of the rise in temperature. agriculture is changing its geography. The rise in fuel price in some ways is a good thing, people are actually looking into alternative fuels. It may already be too late though

 

[turnkey4099]

We have some real environmental problems going on & I'm not so sure people realize the gravity of the impact it will have on all of us. West Nile has just mutated into a new strain because of the rise in temperature. agriculture is changing its geography. The rise in fuel price in some ways is a good thing, people are actually looking into alternative fuels. It may already be too late though

I have to agree with the 'too late'. IMO we are in a natural warming period but mankind is contributing a whole bunch too it and driving it much farther than nature would have.

Even were we to cease totally burning fossil fuels today, it would decades for all the pullutants we have pumped into the atmosphere to be locked up again. Best I can see is for some progress to be made in slowing down the annual increase. Getting back to the same level as even 10 years ago is impossible without wreckign the entire global economy.

Bottom line IMO - GW is here, learn to live with it or perish. As for today's lifestyle in this country? We are at the high point and it is downhill from here. Cheap energy will never be seen again. Yep, totally negative viewpoint but I will put money on it being much more accurate than the ones who think we can continue as is with a few minor adjustments.

Harry K

 

[Timber]

I have to agree with the 'too late'. IMO we are in a natural warming period but mankind is contributing a whole bunch too it and driving it much farther than nature would have.

Even were we to cease totally burning fossil fuels today, it would decades for all the pollutants we have pumped into the atmosphere to be locked up again. Best I can see is for some progress to be made in slowing down the annual increase. Getting back to the same level as even 10 years ago is impossible without wrecking the entire global economy.

Bottom line IMO - GW is here, learn to live with it or perish. As for today's lifestyle in this country? We are at the high point and it is downhill from here. Cheap energy will never be seen again. Yep, totally negative viewpoint but I will put money on it being much more accurate than the ones who think we can continue as is with a few minor adjustments.

Harry K

I don't think the total elimination of fossil fuels is realistic at this point. What is realistic is a very wide spread use of alternative fuels. Solar panels on every home back feeding the grid will become as standard equipment as windows. 1 electric car or plug in Hybrid in every drive as well a standard car. Wind Farms, Nuclear power plants, Hydro and so on. The infrastructure for public transportation needs to be updated. There also needs to be more incentive from local and Federal governments to make it all attractive to the consumers. The bottom line is it is the responsibility of you and me and our children to fix this or at least turn the tide. The world has changed by what we do nd it will always change. The direction of change we can nudge around but that is up to you and me and the generations that follow us. Look at all the great things we have done. I think we can change this too, it is all ready happening

 

[Egon]

Been thinking again about all the undesirable gasses in the air. Then I though about the population. I think it was about one Billion?? 100 years ago. Now its at six??? Billion.

All of use a fueling system that depletes atmospheric oxygen and expels some undesirable gases as well as materials that follow the laws of thermodynamics and revert to the lowest energy level. Some of which may be carbon dioxide.

Many of us also consume fluids containing carbon dioxide which in turn is released into the atmosphere.

So folks, we do indeed have a pollution problem but not in the same form we normally think of.

 

[Tig]

I read about the volcanic activity. If I recall correctly is nothing new, so it does not contribute to change.

 

[czechsonofagun]

We have some real environmental problems going on & I'm not so sure people realize the gravity of the impact it will have on all of us. West Nile has just mutated into a new strain because of the rise in temperature. agriculture is changing its geography. The rise in fuel price in some ways is a good thing, people are actually looking into alternative fuels. It may already be too late though

Well I remember in seventies people went crazy about new ice age coming - and they even had the data straight, unlike today with the only one hockey stick graph.
Ever heard of Roman club? They made a lot of predictions and they were mostly wrong. Today it is just another political vehicle and craze to make some people visible. Been there, done that, got a t-shirt; nothing like living in an east block country to become resistant to similar stuff.

My $0.02 only, of course

 

[turnkey4099]

The 'ice age' bit back in the 70s was only in the popular press, scientists never bought into it if I recall it correctly.

People who think GW is not happening have to find some other way to explain all the missing ice at both poles plus glaciers retreating and even disappearing entirely. Glacier National Park may have to be renamed - there is only a fraction of the glaciers that used to be there 30 years ago.

Harry K

 

[MikePA]

People who think GW is not happening have to find some other way to explain all the missing ice at both poles plus glaciers retreating and even disappearing entirely.

It's the result of a normal warming and cooling cycle and the 70s Ice Age was not just part of the popular press. The press was reporting what scientists said back then. Then the 'experts' were predicting a 'New Ice Age' using just as much 'proof' as the 'experts' are now using to 'prove' man made global warming.

When will people learn this is just another ploy by politicians to grab more money and take away more liberty.