Nortrac 254 with Yangdang 385 engine question about part I cannot identify

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steveneashcraft

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paulden, az
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Nortrac NT-254
picture of yangdang 385 engine.jpg

I can't figure out what the part is that has the arrow pointing to it.
The piece to the left of the gasket is bent and the previous owner filled the gap with some kind of glue.
I think this is where I'm getting air into my fuel line but I really don't know exactly what this part does.
The NorTrac manual doesn't show it.
Thanks for any help,
Steve
 
   / Nortrac 254 with Yangdang 385 engine question about part I cannot identify #2  
The cover in the image you posted is the timing gear cover for the fuel injection pump. If you believe you are getting air in your fuel lines this is not going to be a source.

What are the symptoms you are having? I recently went through a very long diagnostic investigation of fuel problems on my Y385 and completed an engine rebuild in the process. I may be able to lend you some tips on things I learned along the way.

Eric
 
   / Nortrac 254 with Yangdang 385 engine question about part I cannot identify
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Hi Eric,
Thanks for the quick reply. The symptom is that I was brush hogging a field and the tractor lost power and quit. I couldn't get it to restart.
This morning I did restart it by jumping the battery to my SUV and cranking it with the compression release open for about 30 seconds at a time.
I was getting brown smoke out of the exhaust. When it finally quit blowing brown smoke I tried to start it and it started right up.
I may be due for a rebuild as I seem to have a loss of coolant that doesn't show up as a leak anywhere.
I just replaced the water pump as it had a bearing give up and lots of coolant was coming out of the weep hole.
I found a water pump for a Chinese truck that uses the same Yangdang engine for $145
The tractor did overheat before I realized I was running out of water.
Any suggestions on what I should check to see if I damaged anything when the water pump failed?
I'm really new to diesel engines and I love this one.
Anyway -- thanks again,
Steve
 
   / Nortrac 254 with Yangdang 385 engine question about part I cannot identify #4  
Given the conditions at which you noticed the failure, I would suspect a head gasket first.

It seems like you have noticed you are loosing coolant over time, and the condition which it began to loose power was likely working the engine a fair amount -- running pretty hot. Have you checked your oil to verify there is no coolant mixing into it? If you are able to start it now, I would let it run for a bit while keeping an eye on your coolant temperature. If it overheats now you are likely dealing with a head gasket problem. You could also run with the radiator cap removed and look to see if you coolant system is bubbling. Both of those would be indicators of head gasket issues.

Second possibility would be that you are over fueling and causing a cylinder to smoke instead of burn completely. Now that you have the tractor running again, is it running smooth or does it run rough? If it is running rough, you may have an individual cylinder problem that we can pinpoint by cutting the fuel to a single injector.

Those are some ideas on where to start. I am linking my troubleshooting thread as well, which has some links to videos and pictures of isolating a rough cylinder, smoking and fuel issues. https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/chinese-tractors/418264-farm-pro-2425-engine-knock.html

Last but not least, if you don't find an obvious sign in the simple diagnostics above - harbor freight sells a decent diesel compression test kit that can thread directly into one of the glow plug ports.

Hope that gets you started. I beat my head against a wall for a while until I found my initial problem was rather simple. These engines are relatively simple but I had no diesel experience before I got started into mine. Good luck!

Eric
 
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