Oil & Fuel Oil Change - How much comes out?

[ManAtArms]

Hi gang,

I just finished my first oil change on the new M59. The manual calls for 9.9 quarts, however I bet only 7 quarts came out. Is this normal? The tractor was mostly level (a slight offset that favored the downside towards the drain plug). The oil was warm and the fill cap was off to increase the flow.

Oh yeah, and the oil was full before I started.

Hmmmmm.

-Mark

 

[Couple of Achers]

I don't know about the M59 specifically, but on my Kubota there are 2 drain plugs in the oil pan. One on each side of the front drive shaft. I also know there are typo's in some of the different model Kubota owners manuals. Also, don't forget to pull the filter, since that can hold some oil as well.
Just make sure when you refill it, you don't dump in 9.9 quarts before you check to see if it is full. You don't want to over fill it.

 

[ManAtArms]

Couple of A,

I wish I was smarter.

...the dunce award of year goes to....me! You're right, there are two drain plugs. The bottom of the case is shaped to straddle the front drive shaft, so the that's the ticket. The size of the right side "case" looks to be about right to account for the missing oil.

****.

-Mark

 

[Couple of Achers]

Couple of A,

I wish I was smarter.

...the dunce award of year goes to....me! You're right, there are two drain plugs. The bottom of the case is shaped to straddle the front drive shaft, so the that's the ticket. The size of the right side "case" looks to be about right to account for the missing oil.

****.

-Mark

"None of us is as smart as all of us." That is one of the reason I joined this site. After receiving help from this site for awhile now, it's nice to know I can return the favor once in awhile.

 

[ManAtArms]

You're right...sometimes things aren't obvious until someone points it out to you. Thanks again!

mark

 

[Chilly807]

I don't know about the M59 specifically, but on my Kubota there are 2 drain plugs in the oil pan. One on each side of the front drive shaft. I also know there are typo's in some of the different model Kubota owners manuals. Also, don't forget to pull the filter, since that can hold some oil as well.
Just make sure when you refill it, you don't dump in 9.9 quarts before you check to see if it is full. You don't want to over fill it.

I'm laughing here, and I'm with Achers on this one. If I hadn't rolled under the tractor to grease everything a few days ago, it would have been me and not you scratching my head and saying "Where in **** is the rest of the oil ??"

The infamous manual makes no mention of two drain plugs, just says "drain the oil".

I looked up, noticed the drive shaft tube tucked up safely away, and said to myself, "Self, whoever designed this thing had their ducks in a row, but I hope I never have to take the oil pan off... and come to think of it, how am I going to get the oil out of that side over there with only one drain plug over here, unless they... I slid over a couple more inches, and there it was !

Different design, I'll say that much. Since you have one drain plug right in front of you, why would you go looking for another one ?

I know what would have happened with me. I'd have happily drained the oil, replaced the one plug I removed, and added new oil. When it took two quarts less than expected, I would have muttered something about Japanese publishers and gone about my business with the old oil still mixed with new in the engine. Somewhere years down the road, I would have noticed the extra drain plug under all the mud and grime, the eyes would have narrowed a bit, and there would have been real swearing. And I'm willing to bet there are people on this forum that have read this thread and are now out looking under their tractors and shaking their heads after years of doing just that.

Congrats on the discovery, and I mean that. Most of us would never have realized there wasn't enough oil drained.

Chilly

 

[rdsaustintx]

gawd i love this site

 

[Baby Grand]

"None of us is as smart as all of us." That is one of the reason I joined this site. After receiving help from this site for awhile now, it's nice to know I can return the favor once in awhile.

Truer words were never spoke. That's why I joined, too.
I hereby nominate "None of us is as smart as all of us" as our official motto.

... and to get back on topic - first time I rolled under to change the oil I wondered "which one do I drain?", so don't be too hard on yourself.

-Jim

 

[ovrszd]

Overall tractor design dictated the oil pan be split. The front axle assembly has at least two plugs and on some models could have three. I believe my L4400 has three plugs that drain the hydraulic/rear axle assembly. Sometimes the manuals are a little hard to understand but mine does show two engine drain plugs in the photo.

Good catch though!!! I'd have overfilled my engine and then dumped the excess thru the oil plug I originally removed, leaving the old oil in the other sump to contaminate my new oil.

 

[Marcussen]

Mine also have the split oil pan, I was wondering since the oil pump pickup only goes to the bottom of one side, does the oil in the other side ever get into circulation since there is no circulation on that side?