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Freds

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Unloaded the KK tiller today and was noticing the skid shoes on either side. What do they do? Wouldn't one shoe ride lower in the ground that is tilled, assuming you overlap a little? Do you set them at their highest position, take them off? Why would you only want to till the ground a little, that has nothing to do with how deep you plant, does it?
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Oh, yeah, can anyone see the bad paint from the picture? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Thanks for any advice on skid shoes.
 

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Fred,

The skids are for adjusting the depth of the cut the tiller will take. I am still in the experimental stages with my new KKII also. My Rhino was pretty cut and dry. You will notice that you can not adjust the skids to their highest point as the bolts will hit on the side. I set mine as high as possible. According to the manual the skids should be paralell to the ground as you lift the tiller. The cut can also be adjusted by the top link as well. It will take a little messing with!
 
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"I set mine as high as possible."

That's how I set mine too.. then I just use the 3pt lift to adjust tiller height.
 
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Sure wish I was unloading the same thing. Be sure to let us know how it works, and more pictures! Is that lime you're planning on incorporating in the background /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
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I experimented with my tiller for awhile by adjusting the skids up and down, but it didn't take long for me to quit doing that. I just raised the skids all the way to the top to let the tines go to their maximum depth and left them there.

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Wouldn't one shoe ride lower in the ground that is tilled, assuming you overlap )</font>

Yes, to some extent; probably not enough to be concerned with too much, but when I was tilling virgin ground I compensated for that. I'd make one pass, then skip a strip not quite as wide as the spacing between the skids for the next pass, then till the skipped strip with both skids in ground that had already been tilled in the other two passes.
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I'd make one pass, then skip a strip not quite as wide as the spacing between the skids for the next pass, then till the skipped strip with both skids in ground that had already been tilled in the other two passes. )</font>

When I read this, I thought to myself, "That is such a good idea," then I looked at who wrote it, and I thought, "Well of course it's a good idea. Bird said it."

That's how I do mortices in wood with a mortiser, but I don't think it would have ocurred to me to do the same thing with a tiller -- although I don't currently have a tiller.

Cliff
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( According to the manual the skids should be paralell to the ground as you lift the tiller )</font>

I took that to mean side to side /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
I can't wait to start "messing with" it! The snow's about gone and people will be planting in another month. Hopefully by then I'll have a handle on it.
 
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Yeah, what a great idea to till inbetween already tilled rows! Thanks for the tip, Bird.

...and *no Rob*, that's not lime in the background /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Thanks for the chuckle.
 
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Well, here's the rest of the story and how this novice thinks it works... plus a few pics.

From another poster's story, I made sure when I picked up my KKII tiller at TSC that it was well skidded with all parts attached. The only problem I had today when setting it up was that one of the parts was from another tiller /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif It took an hour of fooling around and "if at first you don't succeed..." before I finally called TSC and was told that my PTO shaft must be off of a larger tiller and this happens all the time. After the exchange (seems quite a few on the lot had the wrong shaft wired to the crate) the slip clutch was able to clear the framework and attach to the gear box.

I then fooled around with the skid shoes to get them at their highest point, I think. I loosened the one side and moved the bracket a *whole* two holes higher. Hmmm. I moved on to the other side and could only raise the same adjustment one hole higher, so I ended up raising a different bolt to a higher hole. There certainly seems to be a lot of adjustment when looking at the skids, but in reality too many of the bolts hit the tiller/framework or the skid hits the bottom of the tiller and I'm not really sure if I can set them to dig deeper or not.
They rode on top of the ground well and didn't really leave marks. The only way I think I could get the tiller to dig deeper, is to lengthen the toplink so the tiller rocks back a little on the angled part of the shoe.

Anyway, on to the field! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
One pass travelling at 1.2 mph got me 4-5" deep. Travelling over the same pass got me only about another inch and I slowed it down to 1 mph. I measured this by poking a small stick in until it met resistence over several areas.
I've a good 5-6" of freshly tilled earth and since corn is planted 3" deep I figured this was enough.
The ground was slightly gravelly and enough moisture in it to get it to stick a little if you squeezed a handful. It smelled good and looked good /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

My neighbor said it looked good enough for planting, after he came over to check things out, like we tend to do with one another when one of us is messing around outside. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I followed Bird's suggestion of skipping rows and it worked out pretty well. After the fist row was tilled I got the tiller in place to make another pass with a little less inbetween, and used a point on the loader arm lined up with the edge of my first pass to keep me tracking straight.

I think it was too early to till for real, so I will probably go over the same area again in a few weeks and put down the fertilizer for my garden. In the meantime I will use the tiller to level off other areas where they used to have corn and you can feel it when travelling against the old rows.

I'm happy with the money spent on KK. Like anything you get what you pay for and it works well for my needs.
 

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More dirt.
 

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