OK to use trailer at max payload limit?

   / OK to use trailer at max payload limit? #1  

locknut

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Now that I'm using rear attachments on my lawn tractor,I need a longer trailer.The tractor and heaviest attachment weighs around 1200#.The 10ft trailer I'm considering is 2000GAWR and the payload rating is 1320#.I like the idea of this lighter duty model compared to the 3500# A-frame trailers as it's lower to the ground w/13"tires for easier lower angle loading,and the lighter weight trailer would be better to pull around the property with the tractor for tree trimming jobs and so on.

OK-Not OK?
 
   / OK to use trailer at max payload limit? #2  
I'd say it's OK under "normal" conditions. But rough roads, dips or humps in the road, etc. can give you a problem. I think the manufacturers usually leave themselve a little cushion; i.e., build them to handle a little more than they're rated for, but I wouldn't want to go much, if any, over their rating.

For one example: I had a 32' fifth-wheel travel trailer that came with two 3,500# axles. I had no problem with it at all until I towed it to Alaska. That trip destroyed a couple of tires and broke one shock mount. I found that I was running 7,300# on the axles and about 2,500# on the pin, so I was a bit overweight. I replaced everything from the frame to the ground. New axles, springs, tires, and wheels to go to 5,200# axles and larger brakes.
 
   / OK to use trailer at max payload limit? #3  
I'd say it's OK under "normal" conditions. But rough roads, dips or humps in the road, etc. can give you a problem. I think the manufacturers usually leave themselve a little cushion; i.e., build them to handle a little more than they're rated for, but I wouldn't want to go much, if any, over their rating.

In my previous job i calculated with a safety factor of two: The trailer frame could handle twice the rated load, before permanent deformation (sagging) would occur.

An engineering rule of thumb is that you need a factor 1.5 to stay ahead of fatigue cracking over time, with a single direction static load (The load on a trailer is applied only by gravity, which works in one direction)

The other 0.5 of the safety factor, is 33% over the 1.5 which is needed to take care of fatigue. This 33% is to have a reserve for overloading, as well as a safety margin to take the bumps on rough roads (dynamic loads), cornering, uneven load of the frame.

For cargo pallet trailers, the safety margin could be reduced to a factor 1.8 because it allways rides with an even spread load. An equipment trailer, we sometimes took 2.2 to have more reserve when a heavy piece of equipment is loaded unfavourably, between the axles and kingpin so the bending force on the frame would be higher than when the load was spread evenly (like dirt) over the entire frame length.

In our size class, we used to build one of the tougher trailers on the (Dutch) market. Heavy haulage guys will probably work with even higher safety margins, but they dont have to struggle to get a certain payload within a given GCVW limit(they have an oversize, overweight permit anyways)


If you buy a lesser duty trailer at the same GVW, you have the brakes and axles to safely carry it, but you will crack or sag the frame over time if used very frequently, where the heavy duty trailer at the same rating will have a beefier frame which can take the load over time.
 
   / OK to use trailer at max payload limit? #4  
The rating is the rating. As long as you do not exceed it you are ok.

Chris
 
   / OK to use trailer at max payload limit? #5  
I'd say go for it if its steel. If its Al, I'd want a bit more in reserve.
 
   / OK to use trailer at max payload limit? #6  
The rating is the rating. As long as you do not exceed it you are ok.

Chris

+1. Why do we always second guess the ratings?

Now for a twist..... if you ever think that you will want to haul a bit more than your proposed load then you will be limited. Are you willing to pay for that chance?
 
   / OK to use trailer at max payload limit? #7  
Neighbor bought a new trailer rated at 12k and had the manufacturer de-rate it 9,999#

So in his case... yes
 
   / OK to use trailer at max payload limit?
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#8  
I ended up getting a heavier built trailer.The light duty trailer was a Carry-on brand and was really flimsy.I grabbed the front corner and shook it,and watched the opposite rear corner flap in the breeze.For 250 more I got a much better trailer that has a fold-in gate,powder coated,and the 2" flooring is No1 KD to 19.Nice welds,good quality.Brand is Sure-Trac,built here in my home state.

Thanks for all the good replies.
 

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   / OK to use trailer at max payload limit? #9  
That trailer looks like what I have except it not powder coated. Very nice trailer.
 

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