Old Barn to shop conversion

[cny]

I am in the process of building an attached garage and a small addition to my house and I will be tearing down an old garage/shop (grey) behind the house and converting the lower portion of my barn (red) into a shop.

I am told that the new attached garage will be used for cars and motorcycles only!

The old grey garage is not only an eyesore, but is directly between my deck/patio and a 1/2 acre pond I dug a few years ago ...so it has to go.

The front section of the exisitng barn is 16' deep x 40' wide. 1/2 concrete and 1/2 dirt floor. It sits on a 8" block wall.

I would like to increase the depth to make it more usable ...probably 26-32' deep

I think I will use a mono truss spaced every 6-7 feet with a metal roof.

Not sure what I should do with the existing foundation/floor and walls. I have to at least remove the front wall, extend the side block walls and pour the 2nd half of the concrete floor.

I was thinking the easiset thing may be to remove everything - walls, roof, foundation, windows, doors, & concrete floor and rebuilding it as a pole barn wihout a foundation.

I would have to set my posts at approximately 48" deep to get below the frost line - alot easier than building a poured footing and laying eight+/- rows of block as I did for the addition.

What do you folks think? traditional stick built or pole barn style?

 

[cny]

The old grey garage is currently blocking this view


...so it has to go

 

[schmism]

pole barn style

alows you to keep inital cost down while figure out what sections of it you want to "shop-itize" later.

8' OC mono trusses (mono sissors) would be easy. require ~3-4' of depth for 32' or so span with NY loading....

 

[KaiB]

It just breaks my heart to see an old barn go down.

Is there any way on earth you could restore it. If you took a serious look at the numbers, it may work out best for you (and the building).

I will post pics of my current project: The total restoration of a large 1906 barn-one of the few of its kind in Oklahoma.

 

[Bill Barrett]

Not much of what you asked for, but I have a CST laser just like that one, also I don't like the view of the dogs butt before the pond either LOL.
I think I would do a pole barn just for the ease of construction, but it looks from the pics like you can do the other just as well. Have fun!

 

[Highbeam]

also I don't like the view of the dogs butt before the pond either LOL.

ROTFLMAO, that's bloody hilarious.

 

[cny]

It just breaks my heart to see an old barn go down.

Is there any way on earth you could restore it. If you took a serious look at the numbers, it may work out best for you (and the building).

I will post pics of my current project: The total restoration of a large 1906 barn-one of the few of its kind in Oklahoma.

The Barn is not going down - I am just going to rebuild the front section. The barn was built in 1888 and I am restoring it. It is in overall good condition. The main barn is 40 X 120 deep. The front section (milkhouse) was built in the 60's +/- but is only 16' deep. It is not deep enough to park my tractor or truck. I just want to make it deeper ...28-32'.

The grey building is a P.O.S. It was built in the early 70's - it has to go.

 

[EddieWalker]

schmism knows what he's talking about, so I'd follow his advice.

I am curious why you're not using preasure treated wood for your sill plates in the new construction?

Eddie

 

[VABlue]

Glad to see the old barn is staying, it looks very cool! Old barns rock, and you can't destroy the darn things...

 

[fishpick]

cny - since you live in NY - I'm assuming you have looking into the NY State Grants for repairing and restoring historic barns... based on your posted date - you should easily qualify for money. God knows we pay enough here in President Hillary's state...

 

[cny]

schmism knows what he's talking about, so I'd follow his advice.

I am curious why you're not using preasure treated wood for your sill plates in the new construction?

Eddie

Eddie,
There is a double sill plate. The bottom plate is pressure treated sitting on a sill sealer bolted to the block wall every 4' +/-. The wall sections that we are standing up are not P.T. ...should both bottom plates be treated??? I hope not the garage/addition are pretty much done.


I think pole barn style is the way I am going to go.

 

[cny]

cny - since you live in NY - I'm assuming you have looking into the NY State Grants for repairing and restoring historic barns... based on your posted date - you should easily qualify for money. God knows we pay enough here in President Hillary's state...

fishpick,

What do you mean by "posted date"?

I have applied for a grant 3 or 4 times. I never really heard a thing from the state other than "sorry, you were not selected this year".

I guess I should keep trying. My barn is on a town road and visible from two state highways and one county road. Maybe I should seek help in writing a grant.

 

[EddieWalker]

Eddie,
There is a double sill plate. The bottom plate is pressure treated sitting on a sill sealer bolted to the block wall every 4' +/-. The wall sections that we are standing up are not P.T. ...should both bottom plates be treated??? I hope not the garage/addition are pretty much done.


I think pole barn style is the way I am going to go.

You only need preasure treated wood where it comes into contact with concrete. I've never run two sill plates, so it not something I thought of when I saw your pictures. I figured that you had to cut the 2x6's in length to get an 8 foot wall with your top and bottom plates anyway, so another inch and a half isn't anything.

The only concern with going pole barn style is getting the poles deep enough for your area. Drill them deep and you'll have a very solid building!!!

Eddie

 

[fishpick]

fishpick,

What do you mean by "posted date"?

What I mean - and what the joke I made was based on, was SUPPOSED to read...

"posted state" - as in the state you are from... in your post... but I blew it...

if it helps - I laughed when I posted it...