Older Kubota bx2300 or newer Massy Ferguson gc2410

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mreilly

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I think we're finally ready to pull the trigger on one of 2 TLBs we've been watching, but have a number of questions. Both are subcompacts, but one is fairly new (2010) and mint, while the other--while very well maintained--has 1900 hours on it.

First the newer one: it's a Massy Ferguson GC2410. It has fewer than 300 hours, and they're asking around $14K. I drove it today, dug a hole or two, and scooped and dumped some dirt and stumps with the loader. My only comment is that the hydraulic movement seemed a little slow. That might not be a fair comment, though--my only experience operating something like this is the several CAT mini excavators I've rented in the past couple of years. The CATs clearly have power of a completely different order of magnitude.

The other machine I'm considering is a 2005 kubota bx2300. They're asking around $10K, it comes with a couple of other attachments, and it really has been babied. Looks brand new. I'm hoping to test it out tomorrow, but, assuming it works as advertised, I'm not sure which is the better deal.

Whichever machine we go with we'll be putting a thumb on, and using it to clear a couple of acres of saplings, stumps and rocks, building a terrace, and digging a foundation for a small-ish barn. At least, that's the beginning of the list.

So, here are my questions: a) are the prices for each fair? b)is 1900 hours too outrageous to consider no matter how well-cared for the machine was, or is this one of those cream puffs I'd be a fool not to snatch up...and save several thousand dollars in so doing? c) age/hour differences aside, are the 2 TBLs comparable or are there marked differences that I should be aware of? and finally, d)what are some of the things I should be leery of or watch out for on a machine with 1900 hours?

Sorry for the novel I'm writing, here. Any and all advice any of you may have to offer will be enormously appreciated. I joined this site several months ago when I first started researching used subcompacts and TLBs, and have been continuously impressed with the kind, thorough and thoughtful opinions and reviews I've seen here.

Best,
mreilly
 
   / Older Kubota bx2300 or newer Massy Ferguson gc2410 #2  
is it the 2005 BX23? Not finding a BX2300.
 
   / Older Kubota bx2300 or newer Massy Ferguson gc2410 #4  
You likely already looked at tractordata.com, but if not, here are the links. The Massey is made by Iseki which makes decent machines. I think Kubota makes the best small tractors and a 2005 is not that old. I vote Kubota. It has a little less depth and reach on the backhoe, however.

http://www.tractordata.com/backhoe-loader/000/1/1/119-kubota-bx23-attachments.html
http://www.tractordata.com/backhoe-loader/000/0/8/85-massey-ferguson-gc2410-attachments.html

1900 hours is not much for the tractor. How much does the backhoe look like it has been used?
 
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Tom,

Many thanks for the input. Yes, I've combed the differences--the bottom line is really about whether 1900 hours puts the kubota in a "2/3 cooked," category, or not.

I appreciate your opinion that 1900 hours isn't much. I won't be able to examine the BH till tomorrow, but will give you the upshot once I do. Would love to save the $4K.

If you don't mind my asking, in your opinion, is the difference in the HP between the 2 machines worth losing sleep over?
 
   / Older Kubota bx2300 or newer Massy Ferguson gc2410 #6  
Tom,

Many thanks for the input. Yes, I've combed the differences--the bottom line is really about whether 1900 hours puts the kubota in a "2/3 cooked," category, or not.

I appreciate your opinion that 1900 hours isn't much. I won't be able to examine the BH till tomorrow, but will give you the upshot once I do. Would love to save the $4K.

If you don't mind my asking, in your opinion, is the difference in the HP between the 2 machines worth losing sleep over?

A diesel engine of this type should run for ~6000 hours without any significant rebuild in my opinion. Tractordata lists 22.5 and 22 HP so, no that is not something to worry about. Speed of backhoe operation is dependent mostly on the pump GPM and unless it is a dedicated backhoe or excavator, you are always going to be slow compared to them.
 
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Don't know much (anything) about the MF but the BX23 is a solid little machine. It doesn't have the power of a Cat so if you are used to that you will probably find both these tractors lacking. $10k seems about the going price for. A BX23 in our area, I wouldn't worry about the hours if it appears well maintained. Good luck with whichever you choose.

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