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16valex

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Folks,

My front mount snow blower, the left side is about an inch higher than the right side, this stupit non level matter has caused me twice the maintenance on skids and scrapper blade. Besides adjusting the tire pressure to try and level it out. Is there another trick to get this snow blower to level out?

Thank you for your help.
Alex
 
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Swap your rear wheels. One may be larger than the other.
 
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I hope 638 is kidding...otherwise- ouch that hurts:D

Not sure which model you have and i am not too familiar with the front mount blowers anyway.

I have had leveling problems with other things in the past- and what I have found is that it may be tied to one of the mounting points on the sub frame. I'm sure there are a lot of connection points that might be contributing to the problem. A small measurement out of alignment can transmit to a huge measurment somewhere else.

Look at the manual for the sub frame and work through all of the mounting points and see if everything is correctly placed and spaced. There also might be something in the way- causing improper clearance or restricted movement.

Just some thoughts....of course you might also try having a V-8:eek:
 
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Rear tire pressure/swap makes sense as they are solid mounted to frame where as fronts are on a pivot. Chassis level will be dictated by rear axle.
 
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It is a BX 23, There's no adjustment on the blower quick disconnect, it's dictated by two huge pins.

Swapping out the wheels is not an option in the middle of the deep winter, I just have to live with it untill springs.
 
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Try just changing the rear tires from one side to the other. If this changes the tilt from one side to the other you may be able to correct by adding air the the rear tire which is on the low side to equalize it.
 
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You might be able to measure axle height in the rear if you have a really flat surface to measure from.

Also..if the wheels need switching from side to side..winter time is a good time to do it because it will be enough work to warm you up nicely! :p
 
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Folks,

My front mount snow blower, the left side is about an inch higher than the right side, this stupid non level matter has caused me twice the maintenance on skids and scrapper blade. Besides adjusting the tire pressure to try and level it out. Is there another trick to get this snow blower to level out?

Thank you for your help.
Alex

It really sounds like tire with a very low air pressure-you would not notice it if the tractor has power steering. If one of the rear tires was low the blower would look the same with a level mounting simply because of the front frame.

You can put the tires up to their maximum pressure and not hurt anything.

leon
 
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I would check the air pressure in all 4 tires. Got any pictures?
 
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Thanks for all the responses,

I will play with the rear tire pressure and report back. But I'm afraid that it is the quick disconnect is the culprit.
 
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Thanks for all the responses,

I will play with the rear tire pressure and report back. But I'm afraid that it is the quick disconnect is the culprit.

I think you need to post some pics. I am not clear on your issue yet. :confused:

It sounds like you are saying that when in float position that one side is off the ground.

You may want to check the manual and readjust the hitch as shown.
 
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I think you need to post some pics. I am not clear on your issue yet. :confused:

It sounds like you are saying that when in float position that one side is off the ground.

You may want to check the manual and readjust the hitch as shown.

No no, this is before floating position. This observation is observed when the tractor is parked in a nice and level garage, then I manually bring the blower down close to the ground and noticed the left side of the blower is about an inch higher than the right side.
But, of course if I put it in float position then it will all even out because of the down force.
 
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No no, this is before floating position. This observation is observed when the tractor is parked in a nice and level garage, then I manually bring the blower down close to the ground and noticed the left side of the blower is about an inch higher than the right side.
But, of course if I put it in float position then it will all even out because of the down force.

They are loose so that they float over uneven areas. Mine is over five years old and shows no abnormal wear to blade or shoes. Both of mine are heavy on one side and do not ste level when raised. I do not see as an issue as it is designed to ride in float on both shoes.

Are you certain that the hitch is adjusted as the manual shows?
 
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Hey kevin,

I'm not quite understanding what you said about the hitch adjustment, mine is a front mount blower, that attachs to the quick hitch, and the quick hitch is mounted to the tractor frame by two pins and two clamps. I don't see any adjustment here unless I miss something, but then again I never read the instruction :)) You think I should!!!!
 
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Hey kevin,

I'm not quite understanding what you said about the hitch adjustment, mine is a front mount blower, that attachs to the quick hitch, and the quick hitch is mounted to the tractor frame by two pins and two clamps. I don't see any adjustment here unless I miss something, but then again I never read the instruction :)) You think I should!!!!

Then I guess you need to read the book for the blower.
 
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More than one person may be saying the same thing here. To the OP: Lower the blower so that it is a few inches off the ground, and then try to lift / move both sides of the blower up, or down. If you can move it more than the inch, what you are seeing is that the blower is heavier on one side than the other, and there is enough play built into the mount to let the blower follow the ground contours when in float mode, and that's how it should be run. If the blower is rigid then you have to look at the quick hitch closely. Is the part that sits over, and clamps to the front frame sitting down evenly all the way across? Are the pivot pins on both sides of the mount that the "V" shaped piece is mounted to the same height from a level floor on both sides? Is there enough clearance in any of the mount holes on the blower, or tractor side of the mount that could be loosened, and then retightened with the blower flat on the floor? If the none of these things are true, or possible then it's quite likely that you got a defective mount, and maybe your dealer can help make it right. Good luck, and let us know how you make out.
 
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Thanks ChuckinNH for bring up the same idea about checking the mount, a little better stated than my post.

I am surprised at the number of people suggesting tire pressure changes and switching tires. May solve the symptom, but doesn't solve the cause.

Pressure and tire rotation might be a quick fix, but signs of excessive wear and "lop-sidedness" MUST be corrected at the root problem. If something is not mounted right, eventually the same force preventing "leveling" will cause much greater damage.

Too many times have I heard Company reps (on different large machinery) state "we'll just put a shim in it to make it look right". Let's not just make it look right, lets fix the problem is my usual reply.

I too get frustrated with the loosesn/tighten/readjust game with sub frames and such- but worth the time in the long run.
 
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There's no play or adjustment whatsoever, the blower is solid and no wiggle room from side to side, the mounting pins for the quick hitch are in there solid and so are the top two clamps are tight and even.

I will take some pics of the old worn out bottom skids. I think my problem is the quick hitch itself, it was made a little off, however to prove this I need an auto columator to read the paralellism of the pins run out versus the the tounge mount run out
 
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I am understanding, but I'm not sure that I'm buying the idea that there is no place for any adjustment. In looking at this picture of the Kubota quick hitch, it looks like there are nuts on the lower pivots, and also connecting the clamp mount to the side plates. It would be extremely poor engineering if the weldment had to be perfect to fit every tractor out there. I don't have a program for redlining pictures right now, so maybe someone could circle the places on this photo where adjustment may be possible? Notice that there are also bolts where the receiver mounts to the blower itself.
 

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CBW1999,

Perhaps the rear wheels are the "root" problem. It's easier to check tire pressure and tire diameter than some of the other sugestions. I don't have a snow blower, so can't offer any other advice. But, I do know that if I have a low rear tire, my MMM will not give me an even cut. One last thing is that not all tires come out of the same mold, and not all tires that come out of the same mold are exactly the same diameter. The combination of a low tire on one side and a little bit larger tire on the other side could cause the OPs problem. I'll butt out now and leave this thread to the experts.
 
 
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