Buying Advice One more new guy looking to get into a tractor.

[hunt3r]

Hello everyone,

I have been lurking in the shadows reading as many post that I can to gain some knowledge on tractors. Alot of good advice and ideas on here.
I also see that everyone is very helpful in spending other peoples money .

My home property is only about 2 acres which I will be reclaiming some of the woods back and leveling out some spots. Property slopes down hill from left to right.
I also have 1500 ac of hunting property that is mostly Timber property ( Planted Pines). Will be doing brush , maintaining roads and making food plots of course.
We also have a 25 acre field that we are thinking about planting.

I have been looking at the L4701 and MX5800. I really am leaning towards the 5800 though based on a lot of things I have read hear. I'm going to be on the hunting property this wekend , just to confirm that the pine rows are wide enough for the MX to fit through. I think there is 7" difference between the L series and the MX when it comes to width.

So I have starting going by some of the dealers nearby to try to see if they are helpful in providing information.
I have received my first quote and would like to get y'alls opinon if this is in the normal range for pricing. Not looking for a dealer that is only offering the greenhorn price.

I had them price the L4701 and the MX5800. Both with HST 4wd and R4 tires. FEL and HD bucket.

4701 $28000
5800 $31000

Additional add-ons I asked about were
3 rd Function Valve for Loader Implements $ 1,500.00
1 1 st & 2nd Rear Remote Valve & Mt. Kit w/float detent $ 1,500.00
top n tilt $900

Just curious if this is in the low, middle or high range for pricing.


Thanks in advance

 

[TheMadOne]

The MX has some features that lend it more toward field applications than the L4701. It's heavier, has CAT II 3PT capability(which doesn't mean much other than you may be able to find better deals on used implements since all the guys with CAT I only can't use them), has a much stronger loader, and, of course, way more PTO HP. I'm sure there's some I'm missing.

That said, of the two mentioned, I'd get the MX. The prices you got seem reasonable.

All I'll say is shop around, and also take a look at the Grand Ls. I think they're much better balanced on the weight/HP scale, and things like stall guard are very nice "nice-to-haves".

 

[kenmac]

I can't speak to the price of the tractor as I bought a used mx5100. I think they are the same tractor, except 5800 has little lore hp

my 3rd function was $1200 they priced me rear remotes (there are 2 different styles) $1200 and $1500 for the one where the lever stays in place for continuous flow to a rear implement

 

[Diggin It]

Everybody has their preferences, but all I advocate is to not get hung on color. Expand your search and you may find better values and prices.


For the brush clearing, investigate front mounted implements where you can drive into the brush and cut it before driving over it. My walk behind field and brush mower is good for that, but not heavy enough to tackle the bigger stuff.

 

[jeff9366]

I have 1500 ac of hunting property that is mostly planted Pines. Will be doing brush, maintaining roads and making food plots.
We also have a 25 acre field that we are thinking about planting.

I have been looking at the L4701 and MX5800. I am leaning toward the MX5800 based on things I have read here.

I had Kubota dealer price the L4701 and the MX5800. Both with HST, 4wd, R4 tires, FEL and HD bucket.

4701 $28000
5800 $31000

No question, purchase the heavier MX5800.

If your hunting lease has slopes you want to work, inquire if rear wheels can be spread when equipped with R4 tires. I do not know either way. Spreading the rear wheels is the first step in increasing tractor stability, followed by "loading" the rear tires 50% to 75% with liquid.

The two implements used for game food plots in the South are a Tandem Disc Harrow and a Cultipacker. A MX can pull a Tandem Disc Harrow with pans 22" in diameter. For food plots most purchase a Disc Harrow no wider than rear tires, so implement does not hang up when tractor passes between tress. Land Pride DH2572 would be a good choice, once you decide on rear tire spread.

Cultipackers require very little tractor traction or power. Order a Cultipacker about the width of your rear tires.

The Tandem Disc Harrow + Cultipacker combination does quite well for hunting property type road maintenance.


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[jeff9366]

I have been looking at the L4701 and MX5800. I am leaning toward the MX5800 based on things I read here.

I'm going to be on the hunting property this weekend. Just to confirm pine rows are wide enough for the MX to fit through. I think there is 7" difference between the L series and the MX when it comes to width.

Minimum tread width for MX models is 70"

Minimum tread width for L4701 is 61"

Tread width is from center of one tire to center of opposite tire.
Actual outside-to-outside tire width depends on tires chosen.

Check to be sure FEL bucket is not wider than tires you select.

 

[TractorNH]

Everybody has their preferences, but all I advocate is to not get hung on color. Expand your search and you may find better values and prices.


For the brush clearing, investigate front mounted implements where you can drive into the brush and cut it before driving over it. My walk behind field and brush mower is good for that, but not heavy enough to tackle the bigger stuff.

I agree, don't get hung up looking at just one color or you might miss out on a better deal on a tractor that might be better suited to your needs. Check out all of your local dealers and get a tour of their service departments too. Figure out who is going to treat you like a valued customer and who is going to treat you like a sales number. Dealer support is the single biggest factor that will drive your satisfaction with the tractor purchase down the road. Check out Kioti, Mahindra, TYM, LS, Branson, Yanmar, and any other manufacturer you can find locally. Rural King has been receiving good reviews as well with their RK branded TYM tractors.

 

[MossRoad]

Welcome to TBN! :thumbsup:

 

[3gunr]

Welcome Tbnr,I have been putting in food plots for 18 yrs on our 360 acre north mo property.I have used disks and tillers . By far the tiller is the way to go.A 6 or 7 ft will work great on the size tractor your looking at. Unless you have real rocky soil then the disk will be better, A cultipaker is a must also but thry are really expensive new. I see them on craigslist all the time .Good old ones go for 5 to 8 hundred bucks around here. I would look at other colors also, some have better deals. Good luck.

 

[hunt3r]

Appreciate the feed back. I had read on TBN about visiting different shops to get a feel how you might be treated and see if you can build some rapport with them. A tour of the service dept was one I hadn't though of though. good one:thumbsup:

I wouldn't say that I am hung on a particular brand, Kubota is just very heavy here in N Georgia and I have three different shops within 30 mins of the house. So convenience usually gets the first visit. The green guys fills the gaps between. Then there is Massey, LS, Branson and 1 or 2 Mahindra's with in a 100 miles. RK doesn't have a dealer in the state.

Where they really get you by the short hair is on the implements. I Have been using a tarter atv harrow for a good while and that was $1200 brand new years back.
I think I was quoted like 5 k for a moldboard plow, disc harrow and cultipacker. Essential pieces for planting but dang its expensive. I have started to do some searching on craigslist to see what I can find there. The one implement that I think I may consider buying new would be the rotary cutter.

3gunr are you using a forward or reverse tine tiller? Our property has a clay and loamy sand more or less, I'm sure there are rocks in the mix.

I'll post as things progress still have plenty of homework. Just wanted to get some ideas if the price was n line.

Thanks again