paint sprayers - implements and walls?

   / paint sprayers - implements and walls? #1  

rus_geek

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1) I know nothing about paint sprayers
2) I have never used a paint sprayer

Now that I have that out of the way, I find myself needing to paint some implements for the tractor, as well as painting some new rooms in my house. Is there a sprayer that I could use for both of these purposes, or is it the usual case of "it does both, but does neither well" for a given type of sprayer?

I don't need to set up a professional autobody spray booth, or start painting houses commercially, so the idea is to buy a sprayer that's cheaper than hiring a painter :)

-rus-
 
   / paint sprayers - implements and walls? #2  
I'm no expert by any means but for what its worth, my experience with sprayers for home painting has been limited to rental of airless. They are designed to set the sprayer over the top of a 5 gallon bucket of paint eliminating the need for frequent refills. while in theory i suppose they could be used for other purposes i suspect there might be some viscosity problems unless nozzles are changed as typically automotive type paints have some reducer added for thinning purposes.
Using a hose mounted gun like auto painters do would be quite time consuming as you'd constantly be stopping to refill the paint pot which generally are a quart or smaller.
Another option might be a small airless available at the big box stores, and would be a compromise, but again, small paint pot would be quite a detriment.
 
   / paint sprayers - implements and walls? #3  
For indoor use, rent or buy an airless sprayer. If you are not planning on doing many houses, I would rent. For implement painting I would get a cheap HVLP gravity gun online or from Harbor Freight. I would also stay away from solvent based paints, there are some excellent water based enamels that hold up well and can easily and safely be sprayed, Valspar at $7.99/qt comes to mind.
 
   / paint sprayers - implements and walls? #4  
I have gone the airless big box route & wouldn't recommend. Bought a hd model for a decent price and it worked well first couple of years. Was always careful to clean up, lubricate etc and third or fourth year a seal went bad. May have been normal wear but seemed premature to me. Now I can't get parts from big box and model was ESP for big box so I pitched it. If I need airless again I will rent a commercial unit and let someone take care of the equipment. Don't paint enough myself to warrant the cost of a good unit.

Happy painting...
 
   / paint sprayers - implements and walls? #5  
I painted the exterior of my house with an air compressor and spray gun. Would never do it again - you get better adhesion and coverage with a roller. Prep time for a spray gun was very lengthy. Better to use an airless for house paint and an HPLV for the implement paint. I've heard there is an LPLV paint sprayer that is easier to use than HPLV but have not been able to find one.
 
   / paint sprayers - implements and walls? #6  
The man that builds our dumpsters has an airless sprayer to do boat docks builds and our dumpsters. We would wash and sand blast 2 40 yards a day and then he could paint them in a few minutes each then recover them. I used one in a building once putting down red oxide primer inside a 10 by 10 duct. Had the hose blow betwewn gun and the pump pressure switch. I hade the ball up and be sprayed by 20 gallons of paint.
 
   / paint sprayers - implements and walls? #7  
Farm implements=Rattle Can
House=Roller or brush.

I own an airless, a large one. Fine for barns and such, too much masking inside.

I also own a an HVLP paint gun and I prefer rattle cans for implements. No mixing, no solvent and no cleanup. Toss the can in the trash or better yet, your burn pile. Empty rattle cans make a nice boom in a burn pile.:D
 
   / paint sprayers - implements and walls? #8  
as with any tool it has to be properly set up to do it job,

and air less sprayer can be used with solvent based paints, with the proper tips and set up, but is normally used to pump latex type paints a heaver body paint, the tip is large in comparison to what one would use with a solvent type paint,

I for machinery usually use the old style air paint gun with a paint pot, (in my opinion a paint pot is nearly indispensable as the paint is not sucked but pressurized to the tip, and the gun position is not a thing to be concerned about and the thickness of the paint is not as critical, (they say you use more paint with a air sprayer, but regardless one has over spray, and wast with the sprayer)

of what I have seen with the HVLP guns I was not that impressed, and listening to the wine of the vacuum cleaner motor squealing all day long is not my idea of fun,

any more many times I will just brush it on, many times as easy by the time one deals with clean up,

for house or buildings I use a airless, inside I use rollers and brush, unless it new construction and I can paint before all trim and flooring is put in,

I do have a old commercial spray rig, but unless your doing 10+ gallons it is a mess to deal with as well, this one set over a 5 to 55 gallon drum, I uselay use a 15 gallon or a 100 pound grease drum, as my working container,
 
   / paint sprayers - implements and walls? #9  
for oil based i use my aircompressor and a kit from northern tool, with a water seperator.
I have repainted metal benches, chairs, lawn furniture, and my solar air heaters. work great.

I used my friends titan xt 420 and it was amazing. Painted the barn,coop playset and fence in one morning. I would have gotten more done but i ran out of paint.
That being said if it was indoors you would have to seal, and cover everything.
Indoor i would use a roller, if painting red get the grey primer otherwise you will be doing 6 coats....that was a horrible day.
 
   / paint sprayers - implements and walls? #10  
titan makes a special roller that will work with the airless sprayer to feed the roller nearly continusly, it feeds from the inside of the roller,
for info use only not a recomendation of the web site, JN Equipment - Pressure Cleaners and Paint Sprayers
could save a lot of time in a larger area,
 

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