Pallet fork logging ck2610

[Btown]

Skidding winches have legs or a blade that will most likely prevent a rollover by hitting the ground and taking the traction away from the rear tires. Hitching the log to a three point drawbar or trailer mover does not offer this protection. Big difference.

Some do.

 

[Btown]

And some do not.

 

[roadhunter]

I'm surprised with some of the logs you are picking up with that Kioti. I would have figured a counterweight would have been necessary.

As has been mentioned earlier it's more stable to pull from below the axle.

 

[motownbrowne]

Some do.

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And some do not.

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I'm going to agree with your point here, but argue the specifics. I was talking about skidding winches. The grapple you show in the second picture is a grapple, not a winch.

I do see your point, though. I've never operated a three point grapple, and I've never researched purchasing one, so I'm not familiar with how they deal with the danger of creating a backwards flipping situation. I would guess that the idea is that as long as the butt of the log is off the ground, you should be good, but I would still think there's a possibility for an accident. Personally, I think a winch is a better, safer, more versatile tool, but I can see where a grapple like that would be pretty slick.

No matter what, skidding logs is dangerous business. All we can do is try our best to be safe.

 

[Btown]

I'm going to agree with your point here, but argue the specifics. I was talking about skidding winches. The grapple you show in the second picture is a grapple, not a winch. I do see your point, though. I've never operated a three point grapple, and I've never researched purchasing one, so I'm not familiar with how they deal with the danger of creating a backwards flipping situation. I would guess that the idea is that as long as the butt of the log is off the ground, you should be good, but I would still think there's a possibility for an accident. Personally, I think a winch is a better, safer, more versatile tool, but I can see where a grapple like that would be pretty slick. No matter what, skidding logs is dangerous business. All we can do is try our best to be safe.

I agree with you the lower blade on the winches have added safety, but most winches I look at raise the wood up high to the top link. My whole point was someone stated he should pull it with his draw bar. Most winches and that grapple and log skidder attachments raise the log using the 3 point hitch, not drawbar. Most people can not justify the cost of a winch but could for a skidder attachment like this.

If you pull from drawbar the log can get stuck on all kinds of things. If it is up in the air it goes over things much better.

 

[CobyRupert]

Not sure that a skidding winch offers much backwards flip protection (other than getting butt of log off the ground) because most 3 pth's have no downward pressure.
Like a chain you can only lift and lower with, you can't push down with it.
So if the tractor flips backwards the attachment just hits the ground and the tractor continues to flip (similar to the attachment being pushed up)

 

[motownbrowne]

Not sure that a skidding winch offers much backwards flip protection (other than getting butt of log off the ground) because most 3 pth's have no downward pressure.
Like a chain you can only lift and lower with, you can't push down with it.
So if the tractor flips backwards the attachment just hits the ground and the tractor continues to flip (similar to the attachment being pushed up)

I certainly could be wrong, but I would have thought that if the attachment is lifted all the way up, such as how the winch would be lifted while skidding logs, that it can't be pushed up any higher. I suppose something could break, but I am thinking that the three point hitch can't be pushed up much higher than it lifts by hydraulic action.