Picked Up PT425 Yesterday! Some good, some bad.

   / Picked Up PT425 Yesterday! Some good, some bad. #1  

catsco

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Yesterday I traveled to Denver to pick up my new PT425 at Overnite's terminal.

With the pickup and trailer rental, the total cost above the tractor and implements was about $800. That would have be reasonable, but I had to blow off a day's work to pick it up.

I think that PT should find a different method of 'delivery'.

Here's how the day went.

Picked up truck and trailer 7:30 AM.

Drove 80+ miles in urban traffic to terminal.

The dispatcher at the terminal didn't know about the delivery (although it arrive Friday PM, I still had not been notified as of Monday AM).

With the trailer number I brought, they were able to locate it. I waited 1-1/2 hours until they could move the trailer to the terminal. My tractor was the only thing in it. They had not unloaded it because they couldn't figure out how to release the brake and didn't want to do any damage. At least that was good.

I first saw the PT (sort of) in the dark front of a trailer, released the brake easily, and attempted to start it. The battery was so dead the starter solenoid barely clickec. And I had no idea to operate the tractor anyway other than what I had read.

SO--after another hour of waiting and negotiating, they agreed to attempt to jump start the PT. Unfortunately, it was lunch time, and they were off the clock, so I stood and waited another hour.

When they were back on the clock, it only took another 40 minutes, and we did get it started. Not my idea of customer service and delivery, but I backed it off the truck, down the ramp, over to the trailer, and it stopped. No gas.

After a few more minutes of gazing dejectedly at the ground, got fuel, jumped it again, put it on the trailer and left.

Not to complain too much, but this is an extraordinary amount of work and lost pay for little return.

Now that I have the tractor at my house, and have cooled down a bit, I've run it, and find that it is as described in this forum.

I'll be calling PT this AM to see about some paint or compensation for same, as it looks like it was under boxes or whatever, as the entire rear part is scuffed to bare metal in a number of places.

Looks like one of the main lift cylinders leaks quite a bit, also.

Fortunately for Power-Trac, I signed the purchase order that says I understand that there are no returns or refunds.

A lot of the welds look like my first ones ever attempted, though, and the instrument pod plates are crooked.

This is the last time I will spend nearly $12K on something I've never seen. Hopefully, I'll look at things differently at some point.

If you're still with me after this rant, thanks for the patience!

The machine is solid, appears to be very capable.

Mark H.
 
   / Picked Up PT425 Yesterday! Some good, some bad. #2  
Sorry to hear of the problems. Glad you finally got the machine though.

If the battery was dead, someone may have left the ignition switch on. That runs up the hour meter unnecessarily. Hopefully, that didn't happen.

I bet you had quite a thrill driving the PT for the first time in such an enclosed space. I know I was nervous when I unloaded mine from my trailer.

Good luck with the machine, and please keep us informed on how it goes.

SnowRidge
 
   / Picked Up PT425 Yesterday! Some good, some bad. #3  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I'll be calling PT this AM to see about some paint or compensation for same, as it looks like it was under boxes or whatever, as the entire rear part is scuffed to bare metal in a number of places.

Looks like one of the main lift cylinders leaks quite a bit, also.

Fortunately for Power-Trac, I signed the purchase order that says I understand that there are no returns or refunds.

A lot of the welds look like my first ones ever attempted, though, and the instrument pod plates are crooked.

This is the last time I will spend nearly $12K on something I've never seen. Hopefully, I'll look at things differently at some point.

If you're still with me after this rant, thanks for the patience!

The machine is solid, appears to be very capable.

Mark H. )</font>

Mark - You're among your PT friends - we can empathize.

On the paint issue - this 'paint scuffing' issue has been well-noted in this forum. Most new owners who have their tractors transported by Overnite have noted this. It is caused by Overnite putting straps directly on the tractor frame. I think you'll note that the 'missing paint' is in the shape of straps - shipping straps. (The good news is that with any other tractor, this kind of rough treatment would result in broken hoods, cracked covers, and bent sheet metal. On the PT, it's just scuffed paint.)

I mentioned this to Kristie at Power-Trac. She just said "We can't control what the shippers do." I mentioned that this is not true. You control the cash - therefore, you DO have control. If they damage the tractor, then you don't pay for shipping.

I did mention that this could all be solved by a couple of simple idea - e.g. welding a tie-down onto the PT, both front and rear - that would take like 5 minutes, and be useful in the future. Also, using moving blankets, and laying the blanket over the tractor before strapping it down would also be advisable.

At any rate - it only takes a few moments to prime and paint. We can even tell you the exact paint color HERE.

As for the leaking cylinder, mine came with a leaking wheel motor - I did have to remove the wheel and tighten a connector, and then things were OK. Have you checked your connectors?

I still think you will grow to love your purchase. Please stay with it, and give us all the feedback, both good and bad!

Sincerely,

Rob /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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I had a similar experience picking mine up at the overnite terminal in Portland OR. My 425 was side-by-side with another 425 in the back of a trailer - not tied down as far as I could tell. The battery was dead and we couldn't get the cover open to jump the battery. Luckily, I had a friend along who used to be a carnival mechanic, since the terminal people didn't know what to do.
We had to find a chain and drag the PT out far enough to get the cover open, then jump the battery with the forklift battery. It started hard but had enough gas to get out of the terminal and onto my trailer.
The ignition switch wasn't on though - since it had only a few tenths of an hour on the meter. Either the battery was never charged properly at the factory or the cold weather during shipping helped drain it.

Dave
 
   / Picked Up PT425 Yesterday! Some good, some bad. #5  
I went to Tazwell and picked up my PT. Next morning went out to unload the machine battery dead. I guess they don't keep there stocks of batteries on a trickle charge sysytem.

sg
 
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Pt has private carriers if you are willing to pay, othrewise all common carriers are about the same.
EB
 
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When mine was first delivered I got on it tried to start it , it didn't do anything no click no nothing, with several neighbors looking on and wanting to impress a little and not even a click leaned back in the seat what to do now. Tried it again and it cranked as nothing was wrong hasn't failed to start since I really like mine.
 
   / Picked Up PT425 Yesterday! Some good, some bad. #8  
Sorry to hear of your problems. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

When I picked mine up, I was told in advance by Power Trac to take some gasoline with me to the trucking terminal because they only put enough gas in it to drive it on the truck because they would need special permits to transport gasoline. So I put a gallon can in the truck just in case.

Mine was sitting on the dock when I arrived, with the 60" mower attached and two pallets of implements, so they must have figured out how to start it.

I also had scuffed paint. I called Power Trac and they sent out some touch up paint right away. I, too, wish they would put some tie down hooks on it. All they would really need is one on the front, as the rear hitch would work there, but it appeared they used a strap over the center(under the seat) as that is where the strap rub marks were. It would only add about $8.00 to the cost of the machine and they would get some better reports from their customers.

However, with all that said, now that I own it, I treat it like a tool. The first thing I do when I buy a new hammer is go out and hammer things with it. The first things I did with my new PT425 were to go out and mow the lawn, switch to the bucket and use it like a front end loader, switch to the forks and use it like a fork lift, etc... yes, I wanted it all shiney and new looking from the factory, and I knew it would get scratched and dirty eventually, but I wanted to be the first one to scratch it, not the trucking company. Right? Maybe I'll fire off an e-mail to Power Trac asking them to correct the shipping procedures, add hook to the front and tell the trucking company to use it. It would make their customers happy and it would give them a better image and more free advertising for their product... hmm... sounds like a win-win for all of us.
 
   / Picked Up PT425 Yesterday! Some good, some bad. #9  
MR,
Very well said.
PJ
 
   / Picked Up PT425 Yesterday! Some good, some bad.
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MossRoad--

I agree with you completely! There was no 'scuff' from any tie-down that I could see.

The paint problem was that on the rear part of the machine there was more paint gone than I would remove if I were doing a complete repaint!

The PT was apparently in contact with a lot of boxes for the trip from Bluefield, WV to Denver, CO by way of Holland, MI.

Terry is sending paint. Just one of the things that have turned me into an old curmudgeon. Seeing how the Overnite operation works in Commerce City, I'm amazed that anything less rugged than a PT survices any travel at all.

Mark H.
 

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