Please help I'm stuck!

   / Please help I'm stuck! #1  

barngal

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John Deere 870, Craftsman 24HP garden tractor
JD 870

I was mowing in deep grass and ran into a small pile of logs which jammed in front of my front and rear wheels. (I should have known they were there)

The complication: my clutch is stuck in first and won't engage. It does work the PTO.
Now I can't start the tractor because the clutch is stuck in first gear. Can't get into neutral or reverse.df

?somehow too much pressure on the transmission?.

If I can't remove the logs, is there another alternative? I've thought of jacking the tractor or blocking and trying to dig out the logs (a safer alternative). Is there anything mechanically I can try first?

Any ideas? I hate leaving it unattended in this field...
 
   / Please help I'm stuck! #2  
Look underneath. Might have a log or stick binding up the clutch pedal or linkage
 
   / Please help I'm stuck! #3  
I had something like that happen with a Jeep CJ5 once. I got it twisted in such a way that the clutch wouldn't disengage and I couldn't get it out of reverse. Fortunately I had a winch and I was able to pull it to a flat enough spot where I could get the clutch to work again. Bad design on Jeeps part with part of the linkage on the frame and part of it on the bell housing.

In your situation, I would find some way to pull it out of there. If you can't get a vehicle close enough to hook up a chain, it might be time to buy a Come Along. Jacking it up might work, but usually you are still in the same spot that you got into trouble and it's easier and faster to just drag it to a spot where you want to be.

Good luck,
Eddie
 
   / Please help I'm stuck! #4  
Can you turn the engine backwards to release the pressure on the gears? Just grab the fan or put a wrench on the alternator pulley bolt and turn. Sometimes you have to hold the belt tight by hand to be able to turn the engine over. Just make sure the key is off and the stop knob if it has one is pulled out.

This is if the info given in post number two doesn't work as I would do that too.
 
   / Please help I'm stuck!
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#5  
Thanks. The clutch linkage is clear. I thought about trying to pull it out with the truck. I'll give it a shot I do have a come along I was hoping there was yet easy way out ha ha . I'll post what works thanks
 
   / Please help I'm stuck! #6  
Is it in 4WD ? If so, push down the 4WD lever beside the seat. Also, I believe you mean it won't allow you to move the shift lever. If so, try to shift it into the intermediate gear range (other lever on the left side of the seat). That will unlock the front to rear diff enough to move the shift lever into neutral.

Is the pto locked up ? If so, try to remove the drive shaft or raise the mower with a jack to release the blades.

If nothing else works, jack up the front with a floor jack and pick the front wheels off the ground. That also releases the front to rear diff.

My 1070 does exactly the same thing once in a while.
 
   / Please help I'm stuck! #7  
Were you mowing with a belly mower or one on the 3 ph?

A pic or two would help, but you probably are well on the way to get it "unstuck".

Don't know for sure from what is described, if this is an issue where you can't start it because of a safety switch for the neutral position, or just how the logs are affecting the problem. So prolly not much help here. If the safety switch, then might be able to bypass it if able to find it and get to it.
 
   / Please help I'm stuck! #8  
Are you able able to rock the rear tires by hand. Sometimes in a bind you can grab a tread and grab the shifter and start rocking.
 
   / Please help I'm stuck! #9  
I know if our mower gets bound up on something, the tractor cannot shift in order out of gear. Our mower has a shear pin which sometimes I'll remove to get the PTO freely spinning or if I have some help, I'll pull it with our other tractor until it's free.
 
   / Please help I'm stuck! #10  
IF the linkage isnt binding, my question is:

Is the clutch actually not releasing? Or are you just unable to shift gears with the clutch pushed?

If the clutch is actually releasing but not allowing you to change gears, is it possible to start the tractor with the clutch just pushed? Does this tractor have 2 shifters? A H-L-R shifter and a 1-4 shifter? And if so, are both not working? Please give some more detail.

Betting you wish you had a HST tractor right now.....
 

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