Plowing advice

   / Plowing advice #1  

8n4jr

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Mattawan,MI
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FORD 8N ,JD 110 &210
OK so I just disc ed my garden and I'm not happy with it, drove my 8N around in circles in a 30'x40' area not worked ina few years but it just didn't turn out that good?
Wondered now that I have mostly bare dirt if I can plow with my 1 bottom plow and then disc again or will I have trouble because the ground has been worked, I have never plowed before so I'm a total newbie hacking up the ground.(Sandy loam soil in sw Michigan)

Any advice would be greatly appreciated

Thanks,
 
   / Plowing advice #2  
See no reason you couldn't run the plow through it, then disc again.
May need some help getting the plow set and adjusted, and then figuring out where to start turning dirt. I usually would turn (throw) the dirt up hill. It gets downhill soon enough when working it up.

When it is not a good idea to re-plow, is after turning the debris (grass, or old garden stalks) under when plowing the first time, only to turn it back on top when plowing the second time. But sounds like you have just been scratching around on the surface with the disc.
 
   / Plowing advice #3  
yeah you can plow it up your plows gonna dig deeper than the disc did bad thing is if the dirts really dry its gonna be like plowing a brick but after you get it plowed hit it with the disc again
 
   / Plowing advice #4  
wondered how ya did? Did ya have problems plowing out the center so you didn't end up with a hole? Hey, 1st time I dropped a plow in the dirt I didn't take it out going around corners!! & once I learned to do that, still had to figure how to plow out the corners & centers! Was ready to quit. chuckles. It gets easy and then you love your work & crave doing it the next time. I Just wanted to add that if your ground isn't a hill, you might want to consider reversing direction you turn the dirt next time. Helps keep it all level & consistant within fenced boundries if that applies. How I wish I had a 1 bottom & disc for our tractor (up here in Alaska). Am faced with bustin up this old 100' X 200' garden. Has sat for 4 yrs. BAD grass & weeds!! I'm not an expert but grew up plowing w/a single bottom plow ... nice sandy loam... mmm-- feel free to give a holler if ever need! Good growing to ya!
 
   / Plowing advice #5  
Forgot to say that breakin the surface with your disc is a GOOD thing and can help releive the drag on your plow, but getting that plow to dig down and throw that good ole curl of earth over is really where you want to get to - if the ground has sat for long .. even a year -- . Besides it helps aeriate it (which it probably really needs!), so til you drop the seeds in, you can just get in there and move that dirt all around. Might be you have to make a couple passes w/the plow - each time a little deeper - til you get it good and so you don't damage your machinery. Listen to your tractor, if you're boggin down & really having to put the throttle into it, throttle back and just don't dig so deep. Keep a sharp eye on how the plow is cutting. Better to start more shallow and if it's moving w/ease, you might begin to lower it and you'll find the happy medium of speed and depth. You'll likely not be planting seed as deep as you plow but you need that depth loosened and available for air & nutrient movement -for the established roots to come - Keeping the ground broke every year - planting or not- has it's pay off's, too. It'll be better next time. Hey, if you find it hard & compact this year--this is a good way for you to develop a good gauging system for years to come. You will learn to feel it. But for next year, if you can turn it/plow it after harvest or by Fall, just let it set & 'compost' til spring and then go after it again. Whether or not you disc it befor your Fall plow, I suppose that depends on what's on top but we usually did preceed plowing with a disc or comparable. If you are ready-ing it for planting this year, after you plow it, you probably want to do a final dress out with a nice smooth discing. Just helps break things up nice and consistant and I'll bet you'll also like the looks of it this time! Again, by the look & feel of your plowing & watching how the soil moves to the discs, you can tell how loose or compact the soil is. Now- if it isn't broken consistantly, you might end up with the rain or watering creating low spots and that may create a variety of crop/soil problems. No one needs standing water and plant roots stunting out... Also the same if you don't get those corners & centers fluffed and puffed to match the rest. Still, all of this said .. it sounds like you've got everything it takes with the desire to do this being the first!
 
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#6  
Thanks all,

I'll go out and give it a shot and see what happens. I really appreciate the input.
 
   / Plowing advice #7  
Plows are for turning soil. They're very good for turning grass/weeds upside down and putting deeper soil then on top. That's what they do.

Discs are for evening out plowed soil. Then follow with a harrow if you want really level soil.

This is what we did as a kid. Takes up to 3 trips over the land. Lots of fuel and time needed.

I've raised rows made with a disc hiller. All I do is mulch them once to twice/year to bring up worms. This is how I till and fertilize (e.g. with worms).

Ralph
 
   / Plowing advice #8  
Make sure you have a properly shaped, "sharp" point on your tip, plows can be dull like anything else, we had to resurface ours every once in a while.
 
 

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