Traction PLOWING PASTURE

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dbtractor

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ford 4000
HAVE A QUESTION? TRYING TO PLOW PART OF A PASTURE TO PUT IN A FOOD PLOT BUT IF I LOWER THE 14 INCH TWO BOTTOM PLOW TO DEPTH THE TRACTOR TIRE JUST SPINS
IF I RAISE THE PLOW I DO NOT TURN ANYTHING OVER. NEW AT PLOWING FORD 4000 TRACTOR PASTURE NOT PLOWED FOR 20+ YEARS ANY IDEAS WELCOMED
 
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How big are your plows? How deep are plowing? Are your plows set correctly? Do have fluid in rear tires? Are you using your draft control?
 
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sounds to me like the 4000 ford is to little in the britches to pull your plow.
 
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We need more information on your plow set-up. How deep were you plowing? That Ford 4000 should be able to pull up to 4 bottoms in the right soil.

Joe
 
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HAVE A QUESTION? TRYING TO PLOW PART OF A PASTURE TO PUT IN A FOOD PLOT BUT IF I LOWER THE 14 INCH TWO BOTTOM PLOW TO DEPTH THE TRACTOR TIRE JUST SPINS
IF I RAISE THE PLOW I DO NOT TURN ANYTHING OVER. NEW AT PLOWING FORD 4000 TRACTOR PASTURE NOT PLOWED FOR 20+ YEARS ANY IDEAS WELCOMED

What is the weight and year of your tractor?
 
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Sounds as if rear tires need ballasting. Are you utilizing draft control? Does plow have correctly adjusted coulters?
 
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There are several good Utube videos on setting up your plow. Everything Attachments has a couple of good ones and after the video is over some of the sample selections that come up have good ideas also.
 
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sounds to me like the 4000 ford is to little in the britches to pull your plow.

From Tractordata for the Ford 4000:


Drawbar (claimed):41 hp [30.6 kW] (early)
50 hp [37.3 kW] (late)
PTO (claimed):45 hp [33.6 kW] (early)
55 hp [41.0 kW] (late)
Plows:
4
Drawbar (tested):47.57 hp [35.5 kW]
52.65 hp [39.3 kW]







It looks like the Ford 4000 can be used for 4 bottom plows, if I am reading that right. Of course, it doesn't say what size (14" versus 20"), or if the tires should be loaded. Lots of variables to getting a set of plows to work right. A tractor that size should be able to pull two 14" plows easily enough though, so maybe his setup is wrong. Hopefully the videos will help with that.
 
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It's a 3-point plow, right, not a wheel plow?

If it's a 3-point 2x14" plow it should be no sweat for a 4000.

You probably will want your wheel spacing set at 56-60" centers for plowing with that rig.

Yes, it's desirable to use draft control for a 3-pt plow but not absolutely necessary, especially for the first pass.

Try making a pass with the draft control off (position control). Just keep you hand on the position lever and start slow in 1st gear so you can observe. Lower it slowly until it is sinking to where the dirt is just at the top of the moldboard or a little less. Then try taking it up to a proper speed, maybe ~4mph. Use the leveling crank to make both bottoms plow at the same depth; you will have to adjust this for the 2nd pass when the tractor is leaned over from the right side wheel being in the previous furrow. If the tires slip when it is in the ground just 7-8" deep then you need ballast in the rear tires. You should not have to engage differential lock with that tractor/plow combination.

If it works using position control but not with draft control than something is wrong with the tractor 3-pt lift, draft mechanism. or needs an internal adjustment. Of course the top link needs to be proper length, shares in good shape, not rounded points, etc. Coulters can help in pasture but shouldn't cause the problems you're having. If anything, coulters can cause a light weight plow to ride out of the ground in heavy residue. You could try it with the coulters off and then put them back on and adjust properly. You have some moisture in the soil right now, correct, but I hope you're not trying to plow in a soggy field after heavy rains?
 
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