Pond cost in the Southeast?

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I have 7 acres of pasture and would like to put about a 1\2 acre run off pond on it. What should I expect to pay to have one installed? The ground has a lot of clay in it so I should not have to add anything for water retentsion. I am in Clover SC if that makes a difference on pricing or if anyone near me has recomendations on who to use.

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Wade
 
   / Pond cost in the Southeast? #2  
Wade I think there are too many variables to come up with any fixed price. If you are talking flat acres and the pond will pretty much be a hole in the ground a good size track hoe could do it in a couple of days at about $1000 per day here. Add another $1000 for a dozer to spread out the spoils or do it over time with your tractor. Now if you are talking about building a dam the proper way or trucking the spoils away from the pond the price will jump considerably. There have been people on the forum that have built similar size ponds with their tractors or rental equipment over time.

MarkV
 
   / Pond cost in the Southeast? #3  
For something that small, I'd think a good sized dozer is all you need. The more equipment you have on a site, the more money it will cost you. Get a guy with a D6 sized dozer to dig your hole and spread the dirt to create your dam.

$1,000 per day is a safe enough number for estimating. You might find cheaper, but it all depends on how busy everyone is in your area and who you end up with. I'd also agree with Mark that a week is about right for a pond that size, so $5,000 sounds like a good working number to start off with.

A good fishing pond has a variety of features to it's shape and bottom. You don't want a pretty, smooth bowl, but a jagged, rugged hole in the ground with steep sides. The depth should be from four feet to about twice that if possible. Remember that in dry times, the water will drop and you want at least four feet of water here in the South at your worse conditions. Deeper is better for the reason that you have more water to lose to evaporation.

Your spillway is one of the most important aspects of your pond. If it's not sized big enough, or located in an area that can handle the most extreme rains you ever get, then it will erode and your dam will fail. I don't know the exact numbers, but most dam failure is from the spillway not being able to handle the water running through it. I'd say all, but I'm sure there must be other failures for some reason other then the spillways being too small.

Pipes have a limited amount of volume. It really doesn't matter how big you go, sooner or later a pipe won't be large enough. If you use a culvert pipe, be sure to have a plan to handle excess water over an emergancy spillway.

I have two ponds, one is 3/4 of an acre that I spent two months solid digging with my backhoe. The average depth is 5 feet, but two areas are over 8 feet deep. I put in an island just to cut down on the amount of dirt I had to move, but otherwise, it's just a place for my ducks to be safe from preditors. I dug it with my backhoe and hauled dirt with the front bucket. One yard at a time, all day lone, day after day. It was a massive amount of dirt that took me another year to get rid of.

Even if it costs twice what I'm guessing it will cost, go for it. There is nothing like having a pond on your land. It adds more then just a fishing hole, it becomes the focus of your land. Money is just something to spend, you might as well spend it on something that will last forever.

Eddie
 
   / Pond cost in the Southeast?
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Thanks for the info guys. I called a local irregation guy this morning and left a message for him to call me back. Based on your posts I have some good questions to ask him. I will probably move the excess dirt myself so that should save me some money.

Wade
 
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If you need a dam, make darn sure it's level and that the spillway stays away from it. A friend's (new) dam failed because it had a low spot in the middle and heavy rains/snow melt got it. The whole pond came crashing through... Luckily, it ran right into a bigger pond with a more mature (read: stable/settled) dam that could handle it. If your dam breaks, the water will destroy anything in its path.
 
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I too, am considering a pond here in iowa.Mine will be on the side of a hill.Givin the number of natural springs in the area,I'm hopin to fill it that way.At the bottom of said hill is a small stream that originates about 3/4 mile away.Any suggestions/guesses on cost/feasability of this project.I sit on 5 acres.1-2 acre pond is what I had in mind.Thanks.
 
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blackrat,
A pond is a wonderful thing but can drive you crazy when things just don't look the way you want. I would consider using a n excavator with a good reach. It will allow you to sort the dirt for future use and shape the bottom and sides the way that you may want them. I was going to rent a dozer to do my pond but the rental guy advised against for the reason that if you hit a wet spot the dozer could get stuck easy. I would also suggest that you spread the dirt that you dig out wide and low. This way you will be able to see and enjoy your pond with out tall dirt piles waiting to be moved. You mentioned that you plan on moving the dirt yourself. This way you can take your time.
Phil
 
   / Pond cost in the Southeast? #8  
Make a rough plan the pond first and mark where/how you want it laid out. Then do yourself a favor and hire someone to mark the level grade where the water will be. This will tell you how high the dam needs to be and exactly where to put it. It will also let you incorporate design features like islands, points, coves, etc. With that knowledge you can get an accurrate estimate on exavation/building costs.
 
   / Pond cost in the Southeast? #9  
For those considering a pond I would first suggest that you spend some time at www.pondboss.com in their discussion forum. They have a forum section on building ponds and a good number of pond professionals share their knowledge there.

Your soil conditions are also a big consideration. Remember just because you have a hole in the ground and a water source does not mean you will end up with a pond. Many a hole has been dug that will not hold water even if clay is the main ingredient of your soil. Your county extension service and local excavators should have an idea how successful ponds are in your area.

Another misconception I hear has to do with dams. A dam is much more than just pilling dirt on the low side. Dams need the proper type of soil and a key way that is filled and compacted properly. Even a small pond will have a great deal of force pushing on that dam. Take the time to read Eddie Walkers thread on “Creating a Lake”, it should not take more than a day to read. :eek: Eddie did a great job documenting and photographing how a dam, spillway and the piping system is built.

MarkV
 
   / Pond cost in the Southeast? #10  
MarkV,

You must read faster than I do! I don't think I could read the entire Walker thread in a day!

jb
 

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