Power Beyond & TSC Log Splitter

savageayape · Feb 20, 2007

I've searched the posts and still have a question with regard to using a TSC 3ph log splitter with the power beyond on my 3520. I've learned (from a recent thread) to use the loop on the power beyond with the top comming out of the tractor and the return from the log splitter going back in the pb at the hose (or the bottom). Other than trying to figure out the exact type of fittings and sizes (I've spent $70.00 only to find the wrong type of connections were attached to my hoses), I'm also wondering about the amount of fluid to be added. Do I need to add fluid to the tractor since some of it will be used in the log splitter? If so, do I add it before starting the tractor and using the splitter, or should I use the splitter and then add fluid? I tried asking my dealer by talking with two different service techs, but they couldn't help me. The only information I got out of them was to make sure I don't do it incorrectly, because if I do, I will cause a lot of damage to the tractor. Now, I'm afraid to hook it up and try using the splitter. Please help! I do not have experience with anything hydraulic.

thewizard · Feb 20, 2007

savage, your splitter should have caps. take those to a JD dealer who makes hydraulic hoses, this will give the pipe thread size, this will determine that end. the other end will be part # ar94522 that will connect to the right side where the continued loop is disconnected. Part c14619 will connect to bottom left. just like a hoe attachment. Oil use taken by splitter minimal. Recommend start up, fill hoses and run ram halfway. Then top off the tractor.

kennyd · Feb 20, 2007

Savage,
Wizzard has steared you in the right direction. Order part # AR94522 (MALE) and #C14609 (FEMALE) from the dealer, then find the right adapters to hooks to the hoses of the logsplitter if you even need them.

As far as the fluid, hook up the splitter, cycle it a few times, then check you fliud level. you will not need as much as you think.

savageayape · Feb 20, 2007

Thank you both for the part #'s and fluid advice. I'll get on it this week.

wkpoor · Feb 20, 2007

I have a TSC log splitter I run off an Allis CA. Works great but I don't use the tractors pump nor do I think that is a good idea. I use a Prince PTO pump. Log splitters are continuos heavy work for any pump and most tractor pumps don't put out very much GPM's. The prince is 21gpm and made for that type of service. It effectively gives me 4 times the speed or 1/4 the time to cycle as the briggs powered models running the tractor at 1/2 throttle. Anyone who has used my setup knows what thats means to how much wood gets split.

papafoxtrot · Feb 21, 2007

WK

What does your set-up use for a fluid reservoir? I like the idea of not putting extra wear on a pump that's hard to replace (tractor), but GPM is worthless if you don't have the capacity behind it. Tell me more please.

wkpoor · Feb 21, 2007

I'll have to get so pics on later. Basically the only part I used was the beam and cylinder part with the valve. I had a local fab shop build a frame with 21gal reservoir on it. It also has a 2" reciever built in to enable me to pull my wagon or whatever behind. I have a 30gpm filter hanging off the forward side of the tank. The stands that come with the unit a worthless. I through them away. Any tractor that can pickup the weight in the first place doesn't need stands. The splitter still pivots vertical and on the tractor thats a real plus. The tow behind units are never are on flat enough ground to work unless you have a shovel with you. The whole setup has proved extremely effecient and practical and did I mention FAST

. This thing is so fast you gotta watch your fingers close. After a couple hrs splittin I find myself pullin back the throttle as I get tired. You got to be on your toes, but man can it split alot of wood. Also the Prince pump is only one stage. No problem,,, you got 25plus HP on it and all that second stage does is slow you down. I've tested this right beside the factory unit with briggs power. As I said its 4xs the splitter. I'll get pics on tomorrow.

savageayape · Feb 21, 2007

I like the idea of the pto pump with extra speed & all, but, good grief that's expensive! I looked up that pump and reservoir on Northern Tool's site and it costs more than the splitter did. One of the reasons I went with this splitter was to help keep costs down. Why does the pump cost so much?

wkpoor · Feb 22, 2007

Ye Buddy!!! You'll end having one heck of a bunch more in it all. Just the quick connects I used on the pump were over $200.00. I probably invested close to $1500.00 in the setup alltogether. With the fittings some were $30.00ea., the high pressure 3/4" hose, Filter and fab work wowowow!
But let me tell you--- just as in racing, speed isn't cheep. I could have bought one cheaper ready to go but I'll tell you after it was up and running it was all worth it. There ain't nothing on the market no matter the price that can hold a candle to this setup. If you split alot of wood as I do every yr the extra speed makes all the difference. I can split in 2hrs what used to take all day. A friend of mine said the other day he can't stand to run the factory unit anymore. Way to much doteedo time spent watching that cylinder move to the wood and back. And you don't need anything bigger than a 4" cylinder. Here again, bigger cylinders only will slow you down. I've already done the testing. 999 out of 1000 pieces require 300lbs or less pressure to split even with the 4" cylinder. Another thing is the 2stage pumps are a time waster. I've compared my unit side by side to the commercial ones. The second stage cuts ram movement so slow you can't hardly see it move. Mine just blasts right on through no matter what. Look out cause that piece is going to fly!! Oh yeh, I called Speco, and they told me the specs in the literature aren't wahts really happening. Those are the pump manufacture's specs. The actual flow rates are less on the machine than what they publish. The second stage can be less than 1 gpm. My unit is what it is. FAST

savageayape · Feb 22, 2007

I should curse you for getting me interested in this... Let's see some pictures. I'm actually considering doing what you did now. My bank account will not like you, but I may.