Problem with Starting New DK4510

[Haneyrm]

New tractor has been perfect for first 25 or so hours. Went to do some mowing on Sunday and something very strange happened. After mowing for a few hours, I took a break. When I went to re-start the tractor, I turned the key to the on position and everything lit up normally like it should on the dash. Then it got weird. When I pushed in the clutch to crank the tractor, the tractor started without rotating the key to the crank position. Thought hmmm, that痴 odd. Shut it down, removed the key completely and tried again. This time, I had the clutch pushed in before I turned the key to the on position. As soon as I turned the key to the on position, the tractor cranked up. It immediately threw error codes 001, 002, 006, 007 and 008 and the check engine light came on. After about 5 seconds, the errors cleared and the CEL went out. I decided to put the tractor away until this was fixed.

Its acting like the starter circuit is stuck in the crank position but the starter does not seem to be spinning other than when the tractor is initially cranking up. Dealer is going to give me a new key switch to try before hauling it in for warranty service.

Wanted to see if anybody else has experienced anything similar or had any recommendations on what to look at before taking it in for warranty repair.

Thanks!

 

[Haneyrm]

Was hoping I was not the only person to ever have this problem. Seems to happen to me from time to time.

 

[oosik]

Honestly - I think you made the correct decision. That situation could become dangerous - if the tractor decided to start all by itself or went into the "start mode" while running.

Don't you just love that "high technology" is improving our lives with heavy equipment.

 

[Bavarian]

Could be a stuck starter relay. Kiotis seem to have a history on failed relays.
I had a stuck relay on my truck. Had to call a mobile mechanic. That road call and starter were $900. When we hooked up the batteries, it did the same again. $30 fixed the problem.

 

[Haneyrm]

Dealer gave me a new key switch to try. Installed it today and still have the problem. I guess I need to have it picked up for warranty service. Bummer.

 

[Highgear]

Good thing I didn't bet ! I was sure it would have been the key switch because so many on have had trouble with the switch . But wait - maybe the new switch is bad ?

 

[Haneyrm]

Still no resolution to this issue. Dealer has not been able to figure it out. Getting a little worried...

 

[radios1]

Still no resolution to this issue. Dealer has not been able to figure it out. Getting a little worried...

if it gives you error codes, that means it has a computer to give you them.. perhaps the computer went bad.. I tried to find the wiring diagram, but all that was on the web was scam/phishing sites pretending to give you the diagram.. there was a guy on YouTube that said there is a delay relay that could prevent the tractor from turning off, perhaps it controls the starter too..

 

[JimR]

Any updates on your starting problem?

 

[Haneyrm]

Still nothing. Dealer says that they've done everything as directed by Kioti but nothing has worked and now the tractor will not start at all.

They are waiting for authorization to replace the ECM and it's taking way too long. My grass is 4' tall.

Hoping this is a one time unique occurrence and I didn't make a mistake with going Kioti. This is a little silly for a tractor with 24 hours on the clock.