PSI question re: older hyd cylinders and modern equipment

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My neighbor has an older dump wagon for sale that I have an interest in buying. It is a typical 1950-'60s haywagon with a dump cylinder and lines to hook up to a tractor.
I read somwhere that the older cylinders might be of a lower psi capability and that newer tractors might damage them with their higher pump pressures. Anyone know if this is true?
 
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It really depends on the equipment. It's usually the larger earth moving stuff that went to way higher pressures. I would be more concerned with the age and condition of the seals. They do get brittle with age.
 
   / PSI question re: older hyd cylinders and modern equipment #3  
Is there only one hose coming off of the cylinder? If so, then you have a single acting cylinder. Pressure on the "up" stroke; gravity/weight of box/bed on the "down" stroke. If you use a newer tractor on these older cylinders, just becareful not to apply extra pressure when they are at their upper end of their stroke, better yet is too never quite go to the maximum end of its stroke to empty the wagon(thus no excessive pressure). My Dad has many of these types of single-acting cylinders on old dump wagons and we use newer tractors to operate those cylinders, BUT we always try to stop short of full/max stroke. Never had a problem.
Note: It helps to shutoff the tractor on the downstroke and the hydrualic fluid returns to the tractor quicker(gravity down).​
If it has two hoses going to one hyd. cylinder than it would be double-acting cylinder. On my dad's older portable JD green hyd. double-acting cylinder, the JD mechanic says that it can't handle the pressures of the newer tractors. You must purchase one of the JD Black hyd. portable cylinders($700) to handle the newer tractors. Portable hyd. double-acting cylinders where commonly used on older farm equipment. They would be transfered from pull-behind disc, chisel plow, culti-mulcher, grain drill, rear blade for tilt/angle, etc. The farmer would only need one cylinder. Today's equipment basically all come with their own cylinders as part of the equipment.
 
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Why not just install a relief valve?
 
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Considering the sage advice posted here I decided to pass on the wagon and look for --or build--one more suited to my needs and made with modern equipment in mind. Thank you all.
 

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