Purchasing with a trade in over the internet

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Delphicoder

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This is probably a silly question, but how can a dealer really give you a trade-in value over the internet if you just send a few pictures? I mean, don't they need to start it and drive it etc?

I guess I am too used to the car tradein process, ha.
 
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This is probably a silly question, but how can a dealer really give you a trade-in value over the internet if you just send a few pictures? I mean, don't they need to start it and drive it etc?

I guess I am too used to the car tradein process, ha.

good question... cant see how. Personally i NEVER trade in anything. The dealer always lowballs it so they can turn a profit when they sell it. I always sell private party before i buy the new item. The only time this didnt happen was with my new tractor. I bought the new one before i sold the old one as i couldnt go 1 day in the winter without a tractor for snow removal, and the deal i got on the new one was in the winter.

back to yor question, how would they come and pick up the trade in??
 
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The dealer said they would pick mine up when they delivered the new one.

The dealer is really good, but I just could not grasp how they could risk a trade in just from email pics.

Not complaining just curious.
 
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The dealer said they would pick mine up when they delivered the new one.

The dealer is really good, but I just could not grasp how they could risk a trade in just from email pics.

Not complaining just curious.

whay kind of offer did they give you? and what was it for. Maybe they lowballed it and dont care if they sell it or not?? just a thought. Here alot of dealers just bundle up the trade ins and ship them out to wholesaler lots.
 
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Perhaps you are dealing with Barlows, I don't know. Perhaps also you're considering trading in your BX25? I don't know that either.

But in either case, a low hour Kubota is what it is. Unless it is damaged or abused, something Brady would expect you to disclose and the photos would likely show, at least if it were significant, the tractor is fine. Tractors are made to be used, so he wouldn't expect it to be pristine and have just sat under a velvet cover for the last two years.

It isn't really that hard to understand, from his point of view. He sells hundreds and hundreds of orange machines. Ones about like the next, after you've seen as many as he has. Just sayin'.

You're gonna get offered a good price on the new one. In exchange, you must expect that the offer on the trade in will be a wholesale type price. He has to re-sell it and make a profit for the effort. Brady told me to sell my BX myself and take the $1500 and put it in my own pocket, if I didn't want to except his offer. Great advice, dispassionately offered. I took him up on it. And, yes, it took awhile to sell, but I did indeed pocket that difference.
 
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Instead of Internet, it was just telephone calls, but I traded my 1995 B7100 in on a 1999 B2710 without the dealer seeing my trade-in until he delivered the new tractor and picked up the old one. Of course I had bought the B7100 from the same salesman 4 years earlier.

I was surprised to learn some years ago that RV dealers kind of routinely make deals to take trade-ins they've never seen. Once in Elkhart, IN, I found the biggest dealer (in sales volume) for a major RV manufacturer advertised in a national magazine, made deals with customers as far away as California without seeing their trade-in until they came to pick up their new rig.

And in 1991, in Las Vegas, I traded in a truck and fifth-wheel on a motorhome. I told the saleman the fifth-wheel was in an RV park not far from there and that we'd been living full time in it for 3 years. I thought he'd want to go see it, but he didn't. And when I pulled it onto their lot to move our personal stuff over into the motorhome, he didn't even look at the trailer while we were there.
 
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To Bird's point...I've found that those who buy premuim or near premium equipment or toys also respect and maintain them..Sure there are a few loons who hammer everything they own, but virually everyone I know or have been associated with do not...Its probably a 90%/10% risk in many cases.

I've found this to be true in my RV hunt as well..10% destroy them, the rest take great care of their stuff....The 97 Class C I just bought is as close to perfect as a 14 year old motor home could possibly be.

You probably wouldn't try a sight unseen as a dealer with a $1500 Sears garden tractor unless you were offering $100 on trade...A $20K Kubota is another story.

When I traded my RTV500 for the RTV1100, the dealer gave me a trade price over the phone, sight unseen..The 500 was mint and they got their money's worth.
 
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I've traded several times with Barlows and even though my tractor is located either 2 miles (business location) or 7 miles (home location) from their dealership they have never went and looked at my trade in.:) Never even provided them pictures, they just delivered my purchase and picked up my trade in. I have always told them if there are any parts damaged or missing that I knew about and mine were always dirty (unless it had rained recently)when they picked them up.
I've also traded vehicles with mine sight unseen a few times in the last few years. Course I trade alot and go to the same sales people if I can. I describe the vehicle I'm trading and tell them if it isn't what I'm describing then don't trade.
It is actually done a lot with vehicles, there are wholesale buyers that get calls from dealers (usually new car dealers) Wholeseller then calls other dealers that buy certain priced vehicles and the transactions are completed all on the phone, sight unseen.
A certain model tractor of a specific Brand with a specific number of hours and specific attachments/implements that is rated average condition for the hours and years has a range value. Not being a dealer, I'd at least want pictures or know the seller before I'd make an offer.
Also talking to people can give most of us a sense of honesty or not to know whether to let the deal go or to try and make the deal. Some times we get burned but I believe most people are mostly honest with just a slight bit of larceny in their heart.:) I rent property and sometimes I just tell people I don't have anything to rent them because their story doesn't add up after talking with them for awhile about lots of different subjects. One major flaw with most liars is that they forget what they said so when you come back with the same question later asked from a different direction the liar forgets what they told you the other time and you'll get a different answer. Also, by asking even unrelated questions instead of letting the crook/liar/con lead the direction of the conversation will throw their spiel and their dishonesty become obvious.
Again, I believe most people are honest and will tell the truth if they are asked. Some won't contribute any more info than asked so one has to do alot of asking to cover the bases and years of experience in the/any business will let the business owner see more bases he/she needs to cover during the questioning process. Often times this "bases exposure" comes at a cost which makes these lessons more memorable. If you've been burned or learned at a price, you know what I'm talking about.:) It's good to take a wise and experienced buyer with you when buying items from the guy down the street or on the side of the road. Dealers "usually" have to be a bit more honest with unasked disclosure if they want to stay in business long term.
Any way, yes it is not uncommon to trade sight unseen for tractors, implements and attachments and also cars and trucks.
 
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Used equipment and autos have a generic price. Simple information like model, year, mileage, hours, condition of the body, etc. is all they need. The dealer knows what he can get for it so they can offer you pretty close to what it's worth with just a couple of pictures. If something's a miss they can either adjust the price or call it off. After all they do it for a living. If you go to a used car lot you'll often fine several identical models selling for the exact same price even though one may have less mileage or more options.
 
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Thanks all.

The salesperson pretty much echoed everyone's comments here when I asked about it yesterday. I think I am getting a pretty good deal, so I will post more after I pull the trigger Monday.
 

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