push-back dump or loadhandler?

   / push-back dump or loadhandler? #1  

oldboyscout

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I've been looking for a small trailer to use around the property and decided it may as well be "unloadable". I don't have the means to build a real hydraulic dump, but the military trailers that you lock the wheels and push back so they tilt & dump look like a good idea. I'd like to do something about 3-1/2x5 feet to be able to move around my wooded property, and pick up a yard of gravel etc occasionally.
Alternately the loadhandler looks like it would work for the purpose, but I'm not sure if it would unload gravel 1-1/2 feet deep.
any thoughts?
 
   / push-back dump or loadhandler? #2  
If the surface below the load handler fabric was greased/oiled, it might do OK. I made my own version with a doubled over piece of tyvek house wrap inside a truck bed. It worked OK, but if I was working with dirt, it would build up in the corners of the truck bed and it would get a lot harder to slide/empty if any dirt got under the fabric.

I had better luck with a roll out type dumping bed when I wanted to move a load of fill dirt (I have an old backhoe). Picture a 6x8 "tub" sitting on a long sturdy frame (5x5 wood, well braced) sitting in the back of a truck bed. There are 2 casters on the bottom of the front of the rolling frame. There are 2 upside down rollers attached to the truck bed just inside the tail gate. I loaded the tub and drove to the dump site. On level ground, I opened the tail gate and removed the safety chains so that it would fold all the way downwards and then drove for 3 feet in reverse and slammed on the brakes. When you apply the brakes, the rolling tub keeps moving and tilts as it begins to fall out of the back of the truck. When it gets about 2/3rds out of the truck bed (about a 40 degree dump angle), a pair of chains/straps stop it from going any farther. I pulled forward a few more feet to finish dumping the load and then pushed/rolled the tub back into the truck bed and closed the tail gate. With this type of system, higher is better (more room for a better dump angle). You need some strips of metal to serve as "train tracks" to keep the tub rolling straight and you can't dump uphill or downhill (across the hill is OK).

Here are some pics. (it is very crude/not pretty)
 

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   / push-back dump or loadhandler? #3  
If anyone just needs one temporarily, KYEric built a fancy version of one I made years ago for my 69 Ranchero. I just used pieces of pipe under the tub and rearranged them when sliding the tub back on.
Worked good and hauled all the gravel I needed,
 
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#4  
Those are interesting ideas I hadn't considered. I suspected the loadhandler wouldn't work great for soil or gravel.
 
   / push-back dump or loadhandler? #6  
Scout, that is so cool!! I need to build a small dump to pull behind the tractor and jeep.
 
   / push-back dump or loadhandler? #7  
One note on the millitary trailers (ie: the M101, M102, etc), they were not intended to be dump trailers (despite the videos that Government Liquidation puts out). They were intended to go on a flatbed rail car and have the front a-frame part angle up to let the front of the box sit on the deck of the trailer allowing them to stack the trailers closer.
See http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...ary-trailer-turned-into-dump.html#post2587265 and/or M101 dump trailers ??? for details, but if you try to make a M101 or M102 dump and keep it roadworthy, you will have to do quite a bit of work as part of the "hinge" is cast metal and does not hold up well to dumping.

Aaron Z
 
   / push-back dump or loadhandler? #8  
I have a load handler and it works better than I expected it would. I have moved topsoil, gravel, wood chips and firewood. The biggest thing is not to overload it or you will have to shovel some material out. For the price I think is is hard to beat.
 
   / push-back dump or loadhandler? #9  
I bought the loadhandler 3000 and I can say I rolled off over 2 ton with it on my pickup of gravel.. It was worth every penny I paid for it. I am now to the point where I need more than the load handler.. its ok for the occasional user but I need to haul multiple loads now and the crank tires me out lol
 
   / push-back dump or loadhandler? #10  
I've had a load handler for many years now,first on a 96 Dodge then refited it to a 2011 Ranger.I've hauled many 1-1 1/2 yard loads of crushed rock,sand,gravel,manure,and compost with it,it's the cats meow for low cost and easy unloading.A lot of times it's bad enough one has to shovel the load on but it's real nice to not have to shovel it off too!I welded a 1 1/4" nut on the end of the roller pipe so I could use a long handled ratchet to crank it with as the heavier loads are too hard to crank with the handle that is supplied.
 

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