putting on snow chains on our John Deer 410B loader/backhoe

[Building and grounds]

Hello,

While putting on snow chains to the rear tires on our John Deer 410B loader/backhoe, it turns out that the chains on the right tire rub up against the tractor body while in motion. The chains on the left tire barely clear the body. We've tried everything to tighten up the chains, but that right wheel is just about a half inch closer to the body than the left wheel. Thus, I've been running the tractor in the snow and ice here in upstate New York with only one rear tire having the chains. We're not using it for anything heavy in the winter, just to load up our truck with sand to sand the roads. I've had recommendations to put a wheel adapter/spacer to space the wheel another inch away from the body, but don't know how to go about doing this. The John Deer dealers don't seem to have any ideas.

Does anyone have any ideas about what we could do to the wheel to move it further out from the body?

Thanks so much for your help, and I look forward to hearing from you.
Jeremy

 

[andy1981]

Are your rims offset to one side more than the other like a farm tractor were you can swap them from one side the other to widen your stance, a lot of tractors are Like that for row crop spacing , although I don't know about a backhoe.

 

[Building and grounds]

Hey Andy,

You know that's interesting. The treads on the wheels are actually on backwards, which means the right tire should normally be on the left according to the tread pattern. Do you think there's any way of knowing before if I switched the wheels if it would widen them away from the body?

Thanks so much for your help.

 

[MORRISONSTEEL]

All you are looking for is if the wheel center itself is either positioned directly in the center or offset to one side or the other. The wheel for 17.5-24 is supposed to have approx 1/2" of offset, the 19.5-24 is supposed to have close to 2" offset. So depending which way the offset is positioned you may or may not gain more clearance. I have not seen it done for some time around here but guys that ran machinery on pavement a lot would intentionally run the tires backwards to help slow down tire wear. I don't know if it really worked or not or just made em feel smart. Either way you should be able to run tire chains on this machine (atleast single ring crossover chains). So I would imagine you are in the narrow setting.

 

[jimmysisson]

Place a yardstick or equivalent across the diameter of the tire and measure in to the wheel's bolt flange. Do both sides, and both insides. That will tell you whether your offsets will help you. Shorter measurements on the outside now = don't swap wheels.
Jim

 

[skyhook]

Take a snapshot of your rims.

 

[varmint]

Don't know about JD, but if your rears are two piece, with an outer ring where the tire is mounted, and then a disc between the rim and center hub, almost surely you can mount them different ways, giving different offsets. Kubota guys have posted threads on just that, with illustrations and explanations. The fact that your one tire is backwards tells me that is likely the case.