Question on PT180's

[toy]

Re: Question on PT180\'s

Since you have more than one size power trac to compare with I was wondering if the quick attach on the 425 is compatible with your other machines so that you can use the attachments on more than one machine, or is there a difference.

 

[toolz_not_toyz]

Re: Question on PT180\'s

I'll take a stab at this after having read a great deal of the posts going back...way back.. I don't think the attachments are mostly not interchangeable among machines because of different quick plates. There are exceptions and those apply within a series. For example, the T8 series consists of the 425 and the 2425 and their attachments are interchangeable except for the backhoe, which is only supposed to work with the 2425 but someone in here made a modification and stuck the thing on the front of a 425 (if I remember correctly)...normally, it goes on the back of the 2425.

If you look at the PT website, though, it doesn't mention whether the 425 attachments are interchangeable with the 422. Can someone verify that? I though the 422 were supposed to be the same except for engine size, wheel motors, and ROPS.

The previous post by blackwell though also said this:

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Sorry no trencher on my 425, however we have a trencher on the 1430. )</font>

And I think that's an indication that you can't interchange between the machines in his arsenal.

Of course, Power-Trac needs to maintain these incompatibilities not because they want to make life tough for their customers, but because its the only way that they can increase sales for accessories. It's a common model.

 

[toy]

Re: Question on PT180\'s

They told me at power trac that the attachments for the 425 and the 422 are interchangeable. If you look at the price sheet the numbers are the same for both machines. The reason I was asking is because for example the small endloader bucket for the next class size higher tractor is larger than the small bucket for the 425 but is smaller than the large bucket for the 425. Now if the small bucket for the 425 is smaller than you want and the large bucket is larger than you want , then the bucket for the next size up would be a happy madian for you and you could get teeth for it also. Since I only have one machine I can't compare the quick attach plates, but Blackwell has several machines of different sizes and could tell if attachments were compatible or not.

 

[MossRoad]

Re: Question on PT180\'s

On our PT425, I've found that the small bucket is much sturdier than the large bucket. I use it for really tough work. Also, I can fill the large bucket with moon dust(baseball infield material) to over heaping and it will be too much for the tractor and the large bucket. The tractor becomes tippy and lines are starting to show on the inside bottom of the bucket where the weight of the material is starting to bend the bucket bottom steel around the reinforcing steel on the underside. The buckets are reasonably priced, so I bought one of each. I have no regrets. The little one is perfect for really heavy stuff and the large one is perfect for lose material and mulch. A bucket in between this size still might be too big, as it could tempt you to overfill on heavy stuff, yet be too small for mulch. I got the teeth on the small one, and the more I try to use them, the less I like them. As I said before, I would prefer more agressive teeth like those found on a backhoe bucket.

 

[NJBill]

Re: Question on PT180\'s

Another newcomer ? yep, sorry that's me, and I do mean new.
I sent in, the information request form , for the PT180, and received the package today. I was disappointed to find that I had already read, and/or copied all of that type of information from the web site. I was really hoping for a pictorial look at what is a Power Track, from all that I am reading in various posts, these units are a breed of their own, and I need to know what drives what, from where, and how, after the key is turned.

I have held the full gamut of titles in the automotive service industry, and taught the same for twenty years afterwards.
This likeable unit is a totally different breed, but like KOKO I would like to know more about it's potential.
About retirement time, I bought my first self driven walk behind mower, an Ariens. The idea was it would be good exercise, OK no problem with that idea. The heavy snowfall, '96 I think, prompted me to buy an Ariens 924 Snow Blower. This would also give me exercise, without the shoveling action on my 120
feet of driveway. Good thinking, but, it has been alot of years since I retired, now the legs are not cooperating with the brain.
I thought if only there was something I could ride on, with a mower in front. I started with the Kubota F/GF, the dealer said he could bring the BX1500 cheaper, that's still a lot. Then I switched to the Husqvarna 155, and Simplicity Lancer. Everyone pooe-pooed the idea of riding without the mower attached. Confusion set in so I asked the web for manufacturers and up came a website listing just about averything, and out popped PT.
So now to get back to KOKO's question, has anyone had lengthy experience with a PT180, and I will add, is there some pprinted material available, I just don't know how this thing works. I have seen the mini-hoe pictures and I can see IT WORKS. I know thats a more powerful model,
I want to cut grass, ( not a showcase lawn) move dirt and stones, and I never did like raking by hand.my wish list is:
the 180, three blade mower, ( I agree about the balance problem of a large single blade) stone and dirt bucket, and a rake. When I'm ready, Ihave the route, the U-Haul dealer in Bluefield for a trailer, I will have to put a hitch on my Mazda MPV. Thanks for letting me bore you, I had to figure someway of finding all about my prospective new yard tool















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[MossRoad]

Re: Question on PT180\'s

Welcome to TBN. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I think Blackwell is the only one that has chimed in as the owner of the PT180.

 

[toy]

Re: Question on PT180\'s

I have a friend that has an 18 horse power pt, but it is a 97 or 98 model and I think it is bigger than the new 18hp pt. I saw the new 18 hp pt180 it looked just like the 425 only a little smaller. It was a good looking machine but I never tried it out. I don't know how much weight the new one gave up over the old one which could affect its performance some but my friend that has the older one loves his. I talk to him at church but haven't seen his machine work but those that have watched it work has told me that they have seen him move logs around load and spread gravel and do other work. It was the 18 hp one that got me interested in pts but I got the 425 and am real glad I did. When I tried out the 425 I also tried out the 422 and they both did a real good job in the demonstration at Tazwell. as far as loading gravel the 422 would load a complete bucket just as fast as the 425. At that time they never had a180 to try out but when I went to pick my 425 up they had one but it was too late to try it out. When you go to the demonstration you are not obligated to buy one at that time as a matter fact it was a couple ddays after I did the demo that I called the and placed my order. What I am trying to say try the different machines and then decide you may opt to go a little larger or you may be pleased with the performance of the 180 but by all means let us know how the 180 did in try out. I chose the 425 over the 422 mostly because it appeared easyier to service[ getting to the filters, it doesn't have the hydroback, battery easier to get to ] these things is important to me on top of the fact of the bigger tram motors, higher lift larger kohler engine. All of that combined persuaded me to go with the 425. It was a little more than I initally wanted to spend at the time bvt now I am glad I did. When you go to Tazwell have an open mind about the machines and who knows a 425 might just follow you home it did me and my wife just loves it and I am in tractor heaven. The 425 also has the canopy which is important to me

 

[Cub5k]

Re: Question on PT180\'s

I spoke with a rep at power-trac about the 180. I was interested in using it for mostly mowing, some loading and tilling. The rep gave me the impression that it would be better to use the single blade mower. Also that without an oil cooler that I might have a problem in hot weather with the 3 blade finish mower. Sounds like it might be a little under powered for finish mowing or pto attachments that require more hp.

 

[FOURTEEN]

Re: Question on PT180\'s

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When you first start looking, it's hard to justify paying twice as much for a PT-425 for an extra 7hp. But when you really compare the machines, the PT-425 is well worth the extra!!

The way these are built, they will be around for a very long time, and you will soon forget the extra cost. Also, since the attachments are not interchangable, upgrading later means buying a new tractor AND attachments.


/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif ARE THERE ANY PT-425 OWNERS OUT THERE WHO NOW WISH THAT THEY HAD PURCHASED A PT-418 INSTEAD!!????!! /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif



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[toy]

Re: Question on PT180\'s

Having an oil cooler on the 422 and the 425 is another consideration that I forgot to mention and it is a big extra over the 180. It will make the machine run cooler so you can work longer without it overheating . At the time of making a decision to buy the price upfront will make you think when making that decision at least it did me, but after getting the machine and thinking about it now I am glad that I went the extra. Over the expected life of my pt the price isn't that much. With all of the extras that the maachine has not to mention that they increased the price 500 dollars since I bought mine I feel I made a good choice.

 

[davesisk]

Re: Question on PT180\'s

Just another note, the PT-180's don't have one other thing that the PT-422 and 425 do have...and that's a 3rd hydraulic circuit. So, as is, the PT-180 couldn't run the 3rd movement necessary for the mini-hoe (curl and uncurl of the bucket), etc. However, for about $200-300, you could simply install a selector valve to make one movement of the joystick control two different sets of cylinders (one set at a time, based on how the valve is set). That's what I did with my PT-1418...works very well...

Dave

 

[blackwell]

Re: Question on PT180\'s

Sorry, I been away from computor a few days!!
I think most of your questions have been answered. The 180 attachments do not fit other machines, the 422-425-2425 all use the same attachments. The T12 attachments fit 1430 & 2430 and some (non-powered) attachments fit the 1845 & 1850. The T18 fit 1445 & 2445. The T24 fit the 1460 & 2460. I noticed each is sized to fit that weight & lift capacity. The hydraulic motors are larger as the machine size increases. I think each size has a place and the icrements in size seam about right to me. We are thinking about a 1460 with concrete breaker(post driver with foot). forks, bucket for hardscaping (we need to remove old sidwalks & patios to lay concrete pavers). The 2400# lift will allow us to carry a full pallet of pavers and the wide tires will not cut the truf like skid steers & rubber tracs.
This probally isn't the place to ask but I don't know how to start a new thread; Has anyone tried the Hunt-Vee? I tried the older ATV-6000 with diesel and thought it was a good "OLD-MAN" 4 wheeler- 6 wheels more stable than 4-. Looks like the engine in center might balance better.

 

[BillG_in_TX]

Re: Question on PT180\'s

blackwell,

In answer to your question about how to start a post: When you are in the Power Trac forum, looking at a list of topics, look up toward the top of the page, and right below the "My Home" link and above the advertising links is a link called Post. Click on it and you're on your way. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

If you want to start a new topic in another forum, go to that forum and look for the Post link.

 

[blackwell]

Re: Question on PT180\'s

Bill,
Thanks for your help.
Ed

 

[NJBill]

Re: Question on PT180\'s

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Welcome to TBN. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I think Blackwell is the only one that has chimed in as the owner of the PT180.

I'm back in again, mostly to thank such a fabulous group of gentlemen for their attentiveness to even the simplest question , or comment. In my recent letter to Tazewell asking for more technical information, than that which comes in the standard package, I referred to you all as the "Salesforce". I must have read hundreds of posts in the last week, and, bringing myself up to the present date, I can only say it just gets better, and better. I hope I can continue to be part of this elite group.
My original interest lay with the 180 because it came within my
"allowance", and still presented me with the opportunity to do more different tasks, than I ever imagined. Since then as you see I did lots of reading, resulting in the wheels inside my head turning at a different rate.
I'm beginning the new thoughts with "the stretch", from 180 to 422 was quite a challenge, but even after turning the ratchet 42 times, I simply could not get the three remaining digits without creating a catastrophe.
Thanks again fellers for all the nudging along the way.

Please Take Care, and have a super week-end.
Bill

 

[toy]

Re: Question on PT180\'s

I know about the decision making of justifying the extra expense of going for the higher priced machine. It meant that I would have to finance some of the cost instead of paying cash and that would mean an extraa payment, but then I got to thinking about I had to dig a septic hole and an overflow hole the cost that I would save not having to hire a backhoe to dig it, then I thought how much easier it would be to haul and spread 22 tons of gravel to get ready to pour a garrage floor [ I would have had to hire helpto do that] then I thought about the brushhogging that I needed done. Come to think about it my 425 is paying for itself in the money saved from having to hire someone else to do work at my home and the work was done the way I wanted it done instead of telling those that I hired how I wanted it done only to feel that it went in one ear and out the other. If the job doesn't turn out the way I wanted it to it is easier to live with and I still have the pt [practice makes perfect]

 

[jol1269]

Re: Question on PT180\'s

yeah i too had to consider when i bought mine back on my b-day in oct . the 425 and the few attachments i bought coming in just under 10000.00 . thank god for the discover card and their generous offer of 0 % intrest for the life of the balance ..............gotta love no intrest made the up grade so much sweeter. anyhow my brother called and has hurt his back and im gonna go this weekend .take my 425 and the forks and a chainsaw and cut 40 or so trees and move them the biggest is 12'' in diameter . and save the back wish me luck guys