Questions about JD's hydrostatic drives

[rtm038]

Hello everyone,
I'm in the market for a tractor and have narrowed my choices down to the New Holland T1110 or John Deere 2320 & 2520 machines. Well, I went and test-drove the T1110 today and while the overall tractor was very nice, I noticed that when completely letting off either the forward or reverse pedal, the tractor basically came to a dead stop. It was such an abrupt stop that I basically didn't need to use the brake pedal. Now, I plan on visiting a JD dealer next week to test drive the 2320 and 2520, but I was wondering if JD's HST drive systems act the same as the New Holland?

Thanks
Ryan

 

[mjncad]

Welcome to TBN, and yes, that is how hydrostatic drives work. The only time I use the brakes on mine is for parking the machine, or the individual rear wheel brakes for a tighter turning radius.

If you plan on doing a lot of loader work, the hydro is the way to go since it's easy to be precise in positioning the tractor, and less body movement is needed to change direction. I'm happy I went hydro, and this coming from a manual transmission fan for cars & trucks..

 

[rtm038]

I figured as much. It's definitely not a "deal breaker"- just curious if the systems were different. Thanks for the response.

Ryan

 

[B8FISH]

I don't believe that the "stop" time is adjustable on the 2320 and 2520--but it is on some (3x20) series machines--called the roll-out or something like that, you can make it an abrupt stop or gradual coasting stop.

 

[ScottK]

If you let your foot off the pedal slowly, it doesn't seem to stop abruptly. If you're moving along and lift your foot abruptly, then you will stop pretty abruptly - so don't do that. Just a matter of getting used to driving it I think.

 

[RalphVa]

My 4010 will roll on a hill if stopped in High range. Stops and stays stopped in Low range. This is with engine on or off.

Ralph

 

[ragkar]

Usually my 2320 will stop, but it will roll a bit on a hill. No problem, my auto reflexes and procedures take care of that.

 

[rtm038]

Thanks for the replies everyone. Since this will be my first tractor purchase, I have one other question. Can you haggle or negotiate the price like you do when buying a car?

Thanks
Ryan

 

[mjncad]

Thanks for the replies everyone. Since this will be my first tractor purchase, I have one other question. Can you haggle or negotiate the price like you do when buying a car?

Thanks
Ryan

Sure, I just doubt that tractor dealers have as much wiggle room on their pricing as car and truck dealers do. Remember, tractors are a niche market item.

However, the worst that the dealer can do is say no to haggling. And if the dealer is a jerk about your question on how negotiable the price is, then that gives you insight into how that dealership works.

Personally I hate haggling; but some people love it.

 

[ScottK]

If you request quotes through JD website, you will get competing quotes on the same machine. Also, if you can find one that has been on the lot for a while (maybe a 2007 model) you can get a better price. If you settle on a dealer, then try to get freebies or discounts on add-ons, like box blades and forks at the time of tractor purchase. Yes - most of them negotiate like car dealers, if even to keep you away from Kubota or New Holland.