Questions for Kubota BX 2680 owners with FEL

   / Questions for Kubota BX 2680 owners with FEL #1  

robstaples

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I have a new BX2680 and just added a FEL LA344. With out the FEL, it drove fine and no noticeable effect of 4wd. With a load of dirt in the 54 bucket, when I turn , it feels like I can feel the gears in the front end not grinding but engaging. With going really slow it seems like I can count the teeth of the gears. I checked the front axel fluid and it was full. It痴 all about weight in the front. Without the FEL , no issues.
Is this normal ? Any thing else to check?

Thanks,
Rob
 
   / Questions for Kubota BX 2680 owners with FEL #2  
With 4-WD engaged the front wheels rotate about 5% further than the rear wheels. This to aid steering over plow furrows.

If you do not have adequate FEL counterbalance installed on the TPH you will feel 4-WD trying to pull the tractor forward.

If you have adequate FEL counterbalance installed on the TPH you will probably not feel 4-WD drawing the tractor.
 
   / Questions for Kubota BX 2680 owners with FEL
  • Thread Starter
#3  
No sure if this is relevant, it has turf tires. My only counter weight is a grass vacuum [kubotas) about 200 lbs.
 
   / Questions for Kubota BX 2680 owners with FEL #4  
If you’re driving on hard surfaces like asphalt or concrete, you should be in 2wd.
 
   / Questions for Kubota BX 2680 owners with FEL #5  
If you’re driving on hard surfaces like asphalt or concrete, you should be in 2wd.
BX owner here.

Agreed... stay in 2WD unless you need it. That said, I am often traversing steep slopes with a bucket full and I need 4WD. But if I am on hard surface... I always switch to 2WD. I can feel the strain on pavement if in 4WD.
 
   / Questions for Kubota BX 2680 owners with FEL #6  
With 4-WD engaged the front wheels rotate about 5% further than the rear wheels. This to aid steering over plow furrows.

If you do not have adequate FEL counterbalance installed on the TPH you will feel 4-WD trying to pull the tractor forward.

If you have adequate FEL counterbalance installed on the TPH you will probably not feel 4-WD drawing the tractor.

Jeff9366 is correct, and so are the others that state 4WD on hard surfaces with good traction is bad for your tractor. You will be able to travel with a full bucket in 2WD, on non-slippery surfaces, if you have sufficient ballast on the back of your tractor. If your back end is too light to travel with a full bucket in 2WD, you need more ballast on the back.
 
   / Questions for Kubota BX 2680 owners with FEL #7  
You should not feel anything different with the FEL. Could be the lack of counterweight. I have the BH so it adds sufficient weight and I add 400-500# of suitcase weights to the quick hitch if the BH is off and using the FEL. 200# is not enough to counter the loaded up FEL.

Ron
 
   / Questions for Kubota BX 2680 owners with FEL
  • Thread Starter
#8  
I can see adding rear ballast will help rear traction and therefore allow 2wd to do the task but I don’t see how it will relieve any front axle pressure. I was feeling the gears on dry grass. Maybe there was great contact and no slippage. But the gear feeling was in the turns not straight travel.
I may have my dealer look at it. Ignoring it doesn’t seem right.
 
   / Questions for Kubota BX 2680 owners with FEL #9  
Your front wheels really want to be turning at the same speed in 4WD. In a straight line they can do that nicely. As you turn, you are asking the wheel on the outside arc of the turn to cover a greater distance than the wheel on the inside of the turn, all while your tractor's shafts and gears are driving them both at the same speed. With the enhanced down-force and traction from a loaded bucket, they can not get the wheel slip they need make the turns without protesting. Ballast on the 3 pt. hitch arms acts as a lever that uses your rear axle as a fulcrum. The ballast on the hitch simultaneously adds down-force to the rear axle and takes weight off the front axle. This also transfers some of the driving strain from the front axle gears to the rear, and it allows the front tires to slip better in turns. If they are doing less work and able to slip better, your front axle and its gears will be happier and protest less in turns.

As an example, I have a very heavy box blade on the back of my 35hp tractor and I was able to dig into a pile of loose 23A limestone and grab full buckets in 2WD today. I used 2WD because I was traveling across about 200' of concrete in between the pile and where I was spreading it. Even though it was sprinkling rain, I had no problems with traction on the grass or dirt areas I was crossing either. It was all because of ballast on backside that kept my back wheels in charge of moving me, not the tractor brand, model, or features.
 
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   / Questions for Kubota BX 2680 owners with FEL
  • Thread Starter
#10  
Thanks, All. I now have a better understanding of the forces involved. Not sure how to get that counter weight. I just got wheel weights but they won’t relieve front axle forces.
Funny , I have quick attach FEL that I can attach in 2 minutes or less without leaving my seat, but have to drop vacuum and cutter to add weight to TPH.
I’ll have to work on making them Quicker attach.
 

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