R1 vs. R4 in the mud

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ddivinia

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I have been using my 4720 with R4s in the mud and they really gum up bad. The fenders were completely packed ad sliding around.

The 5525 with R1s - man, what a difference. Just goes thru it and no big mess in the fenders to clean up. The 4720 will not be in the mud unless I have to use it from now on.

D.
 
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I've had good luck with R4's in 12"+- of mud. I can easily see trouble if many trips were needed trough the same area though. So far so good and I'm thankful for 4wd.
 
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D. I agree whole heartedly. Just get stuck a few times with R4's and you'll quickly learn your limits.

How many times has big brother (5525) had to give little brother a "pull"?

I've stuck my 4310 without the FEL on it a few times. Once, I pulled it out with my Suburban, twice with the 5420...
 
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How many times has big brother (5525) had to give little brother a "pull"?
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I have been lucky so far, but man. I am more worried about breaking a fender off - the mud really gets packed in there. The cab is nice in the sleet anywa. I have problems getting the bale off the spike on the back. I can't push the bale all the way on or it is almost impossible to get off.

D.
 
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shvl73 said:
I've had good luck with R4's in 12"+- of mud. I can easily see trouble if many trips were needed trough the same area though. So far so good and I'm thankful for 4wd.

Man, that is some mud. Heck, mine might be that deep. We have black clay - which can get very nasty in a hurry. Cows have to eat - I would not want to be moving these bales with a small tractor in these conditions.

D.
 
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I'll bet the difference is the types of soil. Our property doesn't seem to drain real well, added to that was the amount of rain we've had in the last year.
One thing I've learned is to drive in 2wd drive until you need the help, then engage 4wd and get the heck out!
 
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It also depends on if they are filled or not.
A light weight tractor on R4's tends to float on the mud and that can be very usefull. They tend to not dig ruts as badly and that helps you not get stuck, especially the next time through the same spot.
Heavier rigs with filled R4's tend to try to dig through and the smaller lugs get packed easier than R1's. But, again, they usually don't make as large a rut so sometimes that's an advantage.

Always those pesky tradeoffs. My general purpose 4x4 TLB has R4's. My larger field and utility unit has R1's. Generally I like the softer footprint of the R4's but not a good choice for disking a field.
 
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LBrown59 said:
R4+mud=Racing Slicks.

I agree ....................

An R4 tire is worthless in mud.

I couldn't find a 4720 with R1 tires and the JD dealer told me he has not had any complaints about R4 tires in mud. I can't imagine he has not had any complaints as these are terrible!

I can drive on flat ground but don't have traction to do any work.
 

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