Rear scoop and FEL bucket capacities

Mosey · Feb 20, 2003

I have a 30" King Kutter rear scoop. The propaganda states that it will hold 9 cubic feet. I'm about to buy a FEL and plan to get a 60" bucket. They (Bush Hog) claim their 60" bucket (for the M246 loader) will hold .32 cubic yards, which I calculate is 8.6 cubic feet. I have a feeling the two companies are measuring things a different way, or I messed up my calculations. King Kutter must be allowing for a "heaping load" and Bush Hog is only counting the inside of the bucket itself or something. Do any of you know what the "apples to apples" comparison is for a 30" rear scoop VS a 60" FEL bucket?

Anonymous Poster · Feb 20, 2003

You will get more in the bucket...and the bucket will be a lot easier to work and far more productive and useful. IMHO.. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

CTyler · Feb 20, 2003

(LxWxD)/12 = cubic feet.
What are the measurements of the scoop?

Its not always that simple to calculate with rounded areas and angles. Youd have to figure them seperately and add to the total.

JimMc · Feb 20, 2003

Not sure what units you were measuring with but the formula for cubic volume in cubic feet is (length in inches x width in inches x depth in inches) / 1728. This means a box 12" wide, 12" long and 12" deep is 1 cubic foot in volume. I suppose if you measured 2 of the 3 dimensions in feet and the third in inches your formula would work.

Anonymous Poster · Feb 20, 2003

Hi Mosey,

I don't have a rear dirt scoop, but was thinking of getting one...being a tractor implement collector of sorts... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I think you got it right...has to be a heaping load if the capacity of the dirt scoop is going to be equal to the loader bucket.

BUT...and remember I have no experience with the dirt scoop...I can't imagine the dirt scoop being compared to the loader in usefulness.

Rather than apples/oranges comparison of capacities, probably better to see that the comparison of the dirt scoop/loader is in itself an apples to oranges comparison, regardless of rated capacities...

At least that is the way I see it /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

CTyler · Feb 20, 2003

I knew what I was doing in my head /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif.

Should have wrote it all the same in feet or inches instead of feet/inches to avoid confusion. Either way works.

normde2001 · Feb 20, 2003

Those calculations are probably correct, however useless. The only way you would ever reach full capacity on either implement would be to hand load them with a shovel.

Anonymous Poster · Feb 20, 2003

Those calculations are probably correct, however useless. The only way you would ever reach full capacity on either implement would be to hand load them with a shovel.


Well...I don't know about that...

I do know I have had some pretty heaping-full buckets on my front loader...enough that I have a dent in my front hood where something fell off backwards when I curled the bucket before dumping /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Now with regards to the dirt scoop...can't imagine filling one that full...

jyoutz · Feb 20, 2003

Why decide between the two. I have them both. And I can really move dirt when using both at the same time. If you fill the scoop (and empty it first) it makes good ballast for the FEL.

Mosey · Feb 21, 2003

( Why decide between the two. I have them both. And I can really move dirt when using both at the same time. If you fill the scoop (and empty it first) it makes good ballast for the FEL. )

Actually, I plan to keep the rear scoop and use both as you suggested. I was just expecting the FEL to hold about twice as much as the rear scoop, resulting in triple the total capacity of just the rear scoop.

I need to move a bunch of dirt about 200 yards and it would be much faster with both. I've been doing it with the rear scoop and it's taking too long, plus I can't get it up on top of the pile without having to back up onto the pile to dump it. I tried going up frontwards once and started doing a wheelie!

As far as using the rear scoop for ballast for the FEL, wouldn't I have to dump the FEL first instead of the rear scoop first as you suggested?