Rear scoop vs Mt. Chuckmore

[Chuck52]

I finally got a rear scoop for my old L210. Poor man's FEL, as has been mentioned. It works great for moving fairly loose stuff like mulch, and I did have some success with the dirt pile I have christened Mt. Chuckmore. The mountain was born when I told the guys doing my house additions to pile the excavated dirt behind the barn. That was about March. Since they had to go down almost three feet before they got past the black dirt and into the real clay, I figured I'd have a nice pile of topsoil to use for various projects. Turns out the black dirt is rather clay-like itself and sets up like a brick when dry. When wet, I guess gumbo would be a fitting description. Anyway, it must be reasonably fertile because it grew a jungle of tall weeds over the summer. I was able to fill the scoop where I had previously dug into the pile, but it wouldn't cut through the dry weeds in other places. Has anyone added a toothbar to their rear scoop? Seems to me it would help in this case by letting me rip out the weeds and cut into the hill.

Chuck

 

[Mosey]

I've never tried that, but it should work. I usually use my tiller to break it up first. Have you tried wetting it down first? Wet soil is a lot easier to penetrate than dry soil (except sand of course).

 

[Chuck52]

Mosey,

It's pretty big mounds of dirt. It's also fairly moist, depending on where I dig. Actually, I'm OK with how the scoop scrapes up a load, but it does seem to me that teeth would help it dig in, especially where there's grass or weeds. Mainly where I was digging, the slope was such that the scoop wanted to ride up rather than dig in. Some of the guys have mantioned how you can turn the scoop forward and dig a shallow trench, but I bet that's impossible if there's turf. A few teeth might let it dig in. Of course, as you say, tilling where you want to trench would probably work too. Anyway, I'm thinking of making up some small teeth from some t-stock I've got. I'll weld them to a plate and bolt the plate to the scoop. If it works, I'll brag about it. If it doesn't I will disavow all knowledge of the subject!

Chuck

 

[chim]

I have used a scoop with my Ford, and found it helpful to adjust the toplink to make it more aggressive for some applications. If you're backing in to scoop material up, lengthening the toplink will help the edge cut in better.............chim

 

[Chuck52]

Chim,

Yep, I figured I could do that too. With my toplink about as short as it goes, the scoop sits flat on the ground. So, I could lengthen the toplink and tilt the scoop down into the ground more. I'd probably have to get down and shorten it again to fill the scoop all the way, however. I suppose a hydraulic toplink is the answer, but I got the scoop because it was a cheap way to go. The teeth ought to give me a more aggressive bite without having to adjust the toplink.

Chuck

 

[Justaplain]

Some of those scoops you could turn around and fill backing up. bcs

 

[Mosey]

Chuck - "I suppose a hydraulic toplink is the answer".

I got one this year and it's really nice. I can tilt the scoop down to dig, then tilt it back up to about level to fill it, then tilt it all the way up so nothing falls out when I travel with it. I have been able to dig in sod with it, even in clay. It wasn't cheap though, $300, which is more than I paid for the scoop. It's also real nice with the rear blade, pallet mover, boom pole, and other stuff.

 

[jhburke]

Mosey
Where did you get a hyd top link for 300? That is if you want to tell. Email me if you will.

 

[Mosey]

jhburke-

I got it from Gearmore, Spence, hydraulic top link questions

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[Allis4wdowner]

I just got finished adding a toothbar to my 30" dirt scoop... It really helps in cutting in to tall weeds and small trees. In my opinion its worth putting on. I built mine.. I have 4 teeth on the scoop spreading out every 6 inches. I constructed my teeth out of square tubing...and cut to a slow slope. I also welded Piece of flat steel as the tooth which actually digs and cuts roots. Look at build it yourself forum..under "toothbar on dirtscoop" I will be posting pictures this weekend hopefully.