wedgeheaded
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I'm just chassing rabbits here but, I've seen several post about FELs. Anybody ever build one for the rear? I'm thinking thinking completely outside the box on this but I can see it working and being handy. Any thoughts?
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Havinf forks on the rear, or a pond scoop, or a forklift mast is nothing new, but to do all ofit in one might be interesting. David from jax
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I have seen pic's of REL's before. If you mounted it on the 3PH then you could just build a bucket that attaches to the lower links and a hydraulic top link for tilt, curl, and dump. That would work just fine. If you do build it, make sure to get some pictures of it.:thumbsup:
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Why? If the idea is to use an existing 3pt hitch then buy a pond scoop. If you have to create a hydraulic system then put it up front where you can see what you are doing. Thats just me though.
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I've never done it, but I've seen a few. None seemed to be a viable alternative to the FEL. They all seemed clunky. Either they wouldn't lift high enough or wouldn't dump far enough, or some combination of drawbacks.
I'm with Johndeere3720: if you do build it, post progress so we can learn along with you.
I'm with Johndeere3720: if you do build it, post progress so we can learn along with you.
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Years ago at the landfill I work at I wanted a way to load sand and mulch into my dump truck. I didnt want to haul my tl here each time when I needed to have it here. I built a loader like the Cadplans loader by chance. I didnt know they had a plan for a rear loader that worke similar. I made a loader arm and post out of 4x4 bu 1/4 tube. Then took an old Dearborn loader bucket from an 8N tractor. I didnt have but one circuit at the time so the bucket was left trip operated. It worked fairly well, kinda slow but this was on the big old 4000 Ford at work. I used it for a few years before it wore out. To work it I would back towards the pile and drop the hitch. When the bucket filled I raised the bucket and when I got to the truck I would raise it all the way up then use the remote valve to run the loader ram. I think I got about 7 feet of lift from it.
I used it quite a bit finally warping the loader bucket mounts. I got my skid loaders and now I leave one at work and retired it. I still have most of it around the shop, I want to build a a grapple for the post and make it work like a dual arch grapple on a skidder for putting logs on my smaller trailer. I can mock it all up for yall to see it if you want.
Europe has alot of these loader in production for smaller tractors.
I used it quite a bit finally warping the loader bucket mounts. I got my skid loaders and now I leave one at work and retired it. I still have most of it around the shop, I want to build a a grapple for the post and make it work like a dual arch grapple on a skidder for putting logs on my smaller trailer. I can mock it all up for yall to see it if you want.
Europe has alot of these loader in production for smaller tractors.
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I have always thought a larger FEL mounted on a smaller 2 wheel drive tractor with reversed controls and a flipped transmission would be a sweet loader in confined spaces.
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They were quite popular in the 50's and 60's for loader applications. Tractomive and Henry My loaders like that for Allis Chalmers that eventually made Their construction line. Ih had a reverser on some of there tractors so that they could run backwards for running a cotton picker set up. A few of them here had loaders monted on them and they did really well in the time before FWD tractors and power steering. Some tractors even had a provision for the ring gear to be flipped over to make the tractor run backward all the time.
ytmag.com has some of these tractors on pictures setup like this. One locally was a 140 IH power unit with tricycle setup with the ring gear reversed. It was called a Honey Bee and was used in cotton gins and fertilizer dealers to load with in tight spots.
ytmag.com has some of these tractors on pictures setup like this. One locally was a 140 IH power unit with tricycle setup with the ring gear reversed. It was called a Honey Bee and was used in cotton gins and fertilizer dealers to load with in tight spots.
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I welded a bucket for my neighbours rear end loader, which he got for a bottle of booz, yesterday. It came with a bent and rotten muck fork, but he has more use for a bucket.
His model was a fixed one, not very practical as the weight is shifted way behind his Kioti CK20 but the lift height is still limited: when he uses his hydraulic top link, he'd pull the top link against the fuel tank behind the seat and still have only 5 to 6 feet of lift.
Next to the fixed type i worked on yesterday, there are two more common types in Holland:
http://www.wifo.nl/images/Bak balk.jpg
If you make one, the upper type is the easiest, requiring no external spools: You dont use a top link at all, but attach the boom to the top link bracket on the tractor. On the lower link arms, a yoke is attached that pivots on the main boom and pushes it up, thereby creating enough lift height to load a hobby sized manure spreader.
The other type requires an external spool, and shifts the weight of the load even further back and is just awkward in confined spaces.
I am also thinking of flipping the diff in a 50hp 2wd and installing my front loader over the rear axle. havent made up my mind yet.
His model was a fixed one, not very practical as the weight is shifted way behind his Kioti CK20 but the lift height is still limited: when he uses his hydraulic top link, he'd pull the top link against the fuel tank behind the seat and still have only 5 to 6 feet of lift.
Next to the fixed type i worked on yesterday, there are two more common types in Holland:
http://www.wifo.nl/images/Bak balk.jpg
If you make one, the upper type is the easiest, requiring no external spools: You dont use a top link at all, but attach the boom to the top link bracket on the tractor. On the lower link arms, a yoke is attached that pivots on the main boom and pushes it up, thereby creating enough lift height to load a hobby sized manure spreader.
The other type requires an external spool, and shifts the weight of the load even further back and is just awkward in confined spaces.
I am also thinking of flipping the diff in a 50hp 2wd and installing my front loader over the rear axle. havent made up my mind yet.