Backhoe Removing and installing 930GH Backhoe

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T Connolly

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I just purchased a New Holland Boomer 40 with a 250TL loader and a 930GH backhoe. My dealer assured me it is quite a simple procedure to remove the backhoe but I'd like some expert advice from an owner. Is it all that hard?
Do you block the frame? Can you store the backhoe indoors? I will have it on most of the time though to use my tiller, mower or any other 3 point implement I'll have to remove it. Suggestions?? Warnings??
Thanks!
Tim Connolly
 
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Hopefully you will get some good answers here but....good grief....your dealer is supposed to hand you a super duper instruction manual for the back hoe and personally demonstrate how to take it on and off. Even when I refuse instructions at my local dealership they still insist that it is a part of their service because they want me to be very, very happy with their products! :)
 
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I would store it inside, yes you can, if you have the space.

If the 930GH is a subframe mounted hoe like the 758C model, I can tell you how those are mounted/unmounted.
 
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Hopefully you will get some good answers here but....good grief....your dealer is supposed to hand you a super duper instruction manual for the back hoe and personally demonstrate how to take it on and off. Even when I refuse instructions at my local dealership they still insist that it is a part of their service because they want me to be very, very happy with their products! :)

In fairness the dealer sent a first year part time shop assistant to deliver the Boomer 40 and pick up the TC33D I traded. He explained how the backhoe comes off and which hydraulic lines to switch over. He did not go through the removal of either the Front end Loader or the backhoe. I guess he figured I'd be able to figure it out since I had a loader on the TC33D and took that off all the time. The 250TL loader is similar to the 7308 I had on the TC33D so I'm not too intimidated by that. The backhoe has a large sub frame and is a bit more complicated. The manual has two paragraphs on taking off the backhoe with no diagrams or photos so it's just about useless. I'm sure if I take my time and go slowly I can figure it out. They have to bring me some turf tires for it in a few weeks . When they come to change them over I'll have them show me how it comes off.
 
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I would store it inside, yes you can, if you have the space.

If the 930GH is a subframe mounted hoe like the 758C model, I can tell you how those are mounted/unmounted.
Thanks! I crawled around under it yesterday and at least figured out how it attaches. It does have a subframe that looks to have two large pins welded between the subframe. One hooks into a u shaped receiver bracket in the rear and the front one swings up into another double u shaped receiver about mid way under the tractor. The front is held in place with two pins. My guess is you extend out the boom,pull the pins, lower the stabilizers push down a bit with the bucket to tilt the front of the frame out of the bracket, pull forward until the rear pin is clear,lift the bucket and boom, rest the bucket on the ground, shut off the tractor, let the pressure off the cylinders, detach the power beyond,re-hook the three point power by switching the hydraulic couplings, make sure all is clear, then drive away?
 
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If your hydraulic connections are not color coded you can use different colored tie wraps to distinguish the different lines to their proper connections. It can be humorous and frustrating to pull on a lever and have the machinery move in the opposite direction! :)
 
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Thanks! I crawled around under it yesterday and at least figured out how it attaches. It does have a subframe that looks to have two large pins welded between the subframe. One hooks into a u shaped receiver bracket in the rear and the front one swings up into another double u shaped receiver about mid way under the tractor. The front is held in place with two pins. My guess is you extend out the boom,pull the pins, lower the stabilizers push down a bit with the bucket to tilt the front of the frame out of the bracket, pull forward until the rear pin is clear,lift the bucket and boom, rest the bucket on the ground, shut off the tractor, let the pressure off the cylinders, detach the power beyond,re-hook the three point power by switching the hydraulic couplings, make sure all is clear, then drive away?

Pretty close. :)

Pulling the two pins in front is the hard part. I lower the stabilizers and the bucket to take the weight off the pins, then pull them. It can be a bit of back and forth, leveling, etc. until you get the weight and pressure on those pins balanced to the point you can pull them out. Sometimes I use a persuader.

Once the front pins are out, I use the dipper arm and bucket cylinders to get the subframe tilted down in front a bit, not a lot. Too much will put a bind on the U-shaped rear carrier. Then I drive forward about 10 inches to disengage the backhoe from that rear carrier below the drawbar. Set the parking brake to avoid tearing your hydraulic lines.

Once clear of that, I raise the stabilizers and bucket to allow the subframe to rest flat on the floor. You could put blocking under if you want like a 4x4. You should be able to completely raise and lock the stabilizers, but not the dipper arm. I like to put a scrap of plywood or osb under the bucket because there will be some scraping of the floor when you remount the backhoe.

When the backhoe is down the way you like it, turn off the engine and disconnect the two hydraulic lines, one at the rear of the tractor, the other is below the FEL joystick area. The front hose, after disconnecting it from the backhoe, must be connected to a hose that is hanging free from the FEL joystick valve assembly. Until you do this, the 3pt lift arms will not have hydraulic supply.

Remounting is the reverse pretty much. Get close enough to the backhoe to reconnect the hydraulics, I raise my 3pt lift arms all the way before disconnecting the hydraulic lines. Use the bucket and stabilizers to get the subframe high enough to back into the rear carrier with the front of the subframe tilted down a bit to make sure you have clearance under the tractor and don't break something.

Once you are in the rear carrier, use the backhoe bucket, stabilizers and swing arms to level and line up the subframe with the front pin holes. Insert the pins, use the persuader as needed but don't get carried away. Sometimes it goes easy and sometimes you have to mess with the alignment by twitching the backhoe controls. The front of the subframe pivots in the opposite direction of the swing arm movement.
 
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Dave 1949. Thanks so much for the detailed instructions. I had turf tires put on my machine a week or so ago and they sent someone here who had no clue how to take off the backhoe when they returned it after I specifically asked for someone to show me how to do it once. Oh well I'll have to try it on my own a few times and see if I can figure it out. The one difference I saw in your description is the hose hanging freely from the FEL block. Mine is attached to another quick disconnect that I will have to track down and see where it attaches. They told me I basically just have to switch those two quick disconnects around. I like to know where and why so I'll trace it and see if I can figure it out. I'll get out the colored electrical tape and color code the ends for future reference. The backhoe works slick . We planted a bunch of trees with it an no time. The thumb was very handy for removing some large rocks we encountered. I'm sure once I get used to taking the back hoe off I'll be less intimidated by the thought of it. Eventually I plan to make a set of dollies for the backhoe so I can move it around the barn to where I want to store it. Something based on snowmobile dollies. It's pretty heavy but I think two of us on it should be able to roll it on the concrete floor without much problem. Thanks again!
 
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Dave 1949. Thanks so much for the detailed instructions. I had turf tires put on my machine a week or so ago and they sent someone here who had no clue how to take off the backhoe when they returned it after I specifically asked for someone to show me how to do it once. Oh well I'll have to try it on my own a few times and see if I can figure it out. The one difference I saw in your description is the hose hanging freely from the FEL block. Mine is attached to another quick disconnect that I will have to track down and see where it attaches. They told me I basically just have to switch those two quick disconnects around. I like to know where and why so I'll trace it and see if I can figure it out. I'll get out the colored electrical tape and color code the ends for future reference. The backhoe works slick . We planted a bunch of trees with it an no time. The thumb was very handy for removing some large rocks we encountered. I'm sure once I get used to taking the back hoe off I'll be less intimidated by the thought of it. Eventually I plan to make a set of dollies for the backhoe so I can move it around the barn to where I want to store it. Something based on snowmobile dollies. It's pretty heavy but I think two of us on it should be able to roll it on the concrete floor without much problem. Thanks again!

You are welcome for the confusion. :laughing: On my TC40 there is a hyd. line that hangs down below the FEL joystick valve assembly. That line gets connected to the male quick connect where the front BH hyd. line is/was connected.

There are several BH dolly builds here on TBN. One was quite elaborate and IRCC, it had integrated jacks to remount the BH without using the tractor hydraulics. I can't remember the TBN member who built that, it was well-engineered. You can get some ideas using this Google search:
site:TractorByNet.com | Compact Tractors | John Deere, Kubota, New Holland "backhoe dolly"
 

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