sandman1220
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What is the difference in a manual, electric, and hydraulic tie with round balers?
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whodat526
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manual- u either turn a round by hand or pull a rope
electric- u have a switch u use to turn a electric motor
hyd- u use a second set of remotes to run a hyd motor that turns the arms to make tie
they also have auto wrap like in a nh baler that u do nothing
electric- u have a switch u use to turn a electric motor
hyd- u use a second set of remotes to run a hyd motor that turns the arms to make tie
they also have auto wrap like in a nh baler that u do nothing
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sandman1220
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Thanks for the info. I'm looking at buying a round baler and I've never baled with one so I have very limited knowledge. I've only used our square baler. So I'm open to any suggestions and advice. Thanks again!!!
sweettractors
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Keep in mind that with Hydraulic tie, you will need 4 lines out the back of your tractor. If you are younger, manual tie is simple and fine. When you get older, that reaching back to crank the manual handle gets a little tiresome. We always keep several nice field ready hay rollers at our Munfordville, Ky store, Call Greg or Brandon and see what they have at 270-524-0385. You might work a trade with them on the square baler?? Ken Sweet
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sandman1220
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I've seen your website before. You seem to keep some good equipment. I'm keeping the square baler and just adding the round baler for the horses that live out 24/7. Everyone that I've talked to are suggesting a good used chain baler given my baling experience. I've got my eye on a couple that have the electric tie. All advice is greatly appreciated!!
sweettractors
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Greg has several hay rollers that have just came in and are not on his website Sweet Farm Equipment . They are outside loading a disc to go to Illinois and probably can't hear the phone. Give them a call tomorrow and get a update on current inventory. Ken Sweet
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sandman1220
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Will do. Thanks
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Just a quick bit of advice about using round balers....
With most square balers (both large and small) the pickup packs out the bale evenly. However with most round balers (with the exception of the best) you need to weave slightly to ensure even fill of the bale - if all the straw is fed into the centre of the pick-up, you will end up with "beer-gut" shapped bales, where as if the majority of the straw goes into oneside of the pick up, you will end up with cone shapped bales! Some balers have electric control boxes with display or gauges to show how evenly the bale is filling.
Also remember to clean out the chamber every night - if it is roller based you need to ensure any material wrapped around the bearings is removed (it's real fire risk otheriwse), while with belt balers you need to ensure grass (especially if cut for silage) has not wrapped around the guide rollers. If you are using a belt style baler and your bales appear to be getting smaller - it will most likely be material wrapped around the rollers causing it.
The real advantage of belt type balers though is that you can vary the size of bale, and a lot less bearings to worry about!
Hioe this helps :thumbsup:
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sandman1220
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YES! Any info definitely helps. I've heard driving appox 10-12 seconds feeding each side of the pick up will get you pretty close to a decent looking bale. Also, making sure that your pick up matches your ground speed so the baler isn't "snatching hay" or you're not bull dozing hay. Fingers crossed
YES! Any info definitely helps. I've heard driving appox 10-12 seconds feeding each side of the pick up will get you pretty close to a decent looking bale. Also, making sure that your pick up matches your ground speed so the baler isn't "snatching hay" or you're not bull dozing hay. Fingers crossed
a person with little or no experience with a round baler will defiently do best with an auto wrap system. Believe me, been there done that. with an auto wrap all you do is drive, when the buzzer goes off that your bale is full, you stop the tractor and the baler automatically ties the bale and then you open the tail gate to let the bale out, close the tail gate and off you go again. doesnt get any easier than that
sweettractors
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We use a Sitrex Y rake and have it set to give us a windrow the width of the intake on the roller. We have not had to weave in years. The monitor tells us when the chamber is full. In good heavy spring hay we can kick out a 5 X 5 bale every 90 seconds including tying time. Ken Sweet
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sandman1220
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Easy always seems to come with a healthy price tag
not at all. what size bale will you want to be producing? 4x4, 4x5, 4x6, 5x5, 5x6?
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sandman1220
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Posting from my phone so hope it works. Would like to do 5x5 bales
bigbull338
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a 5 by 5 is a nice size bale.i dont know if youve priced the baler or not.last nite i turned down a 4yr old round baler cutter an rake for $26,000.they didnt say how old the cutter an rake was.if i hadnt just bought a new tractor id prolly tryed to buy that equipment.
jdtractor
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hi i have been round baleing for several years more then i care to admit, since your just starting i think you will find,that a belt baler with electric tie will do just fine for you. you can get whatever you want you are the man buying ,but you wont like the manual tie and you will pay for the auto wrap. the electric tie work very well i had one made by vermeer worked great no problems and i baled several hundred bales a year for horses and cattle. hope this helps you
you can get a brand new New Holland Br7080 auto wrap, twine tie only, 5x5 bale size and can adjust the weight of the bale and bale size for $22,900
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sandman1220
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The baler I'm looking at is a New holland 849 with new chains and an electric tie. Everyone is saying the chain baler is more forgiving for a novice such as myself. Do they make an older "auto wrap" baler? If I understand what everyone is saying regarding the auto wrap is there isn't any weaving to feed the baler. Right? Also, I really appreciate everyone's comments because they're very helpful. THANKS!
chains, were nice back in the day. there is more maintence with them, and the bales arent quit as nice looking and dense as with a belt baler. and yes Check out a NH 678 which is a 5x5 auto wrap made in the late 90's to 2002 or a 688 which is a 5x6 but you can adjust your size and weight if you want a true 5x5. you can find good used balers of these models from $6 to $10 give or take
sweettractors
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Here is a link to one of the slickest NH 648 balers you will find anywhere. It has not been cleaned up and does not need to be. Ken Sweet
Used New Holland 648 Hay Roller, Super Sharp!!!!!!!! | eBay
Used New Holland 648 Hay Roller, Super Sharp!!!!!!!! | eBay
