Seat Belts for a Jinma 304

Momboy007 · Mar 3, 2006

Hello All,
My dealer did not install my seat belts on my Jinma 304 and said he would never use them if he were me, however, I would like to install them anyway and use them, but cannot figure how they are to be mounted. He left the belts with me loosely packed and they also came with 2 brackets, I just can't figure out how to mount them. Anyone have any pictures?? or instructions?
Thanks all,
Rick

greg_g · Mar 3, 2006

I've had three Chinese tractors, uninstalled belts came with each one. I never put them on either, but assumed they got fastened by the bolts that hold the seat brackets to the hydraulic sump.

//greg//

MrFixit · Mar 3, 2006

I would prefer to never Roll my KAMA 354 over. But if I did it's probably because the soil along my canal broke loose and dumped me into the water.

Good thing my KAMA didn't come with seat belts because I put them on as a habit when driving my car.

Tim

Ranch_Hand_Supp · Mar 3, 2006

Momboy007, You can PM me or contact me through my web site www.ranchhandsupply.com if you would like for me to send you some pictures ....... shows more than a thousand words on how and where.

The seat belts are part of the ROPS system for lack of better words. I sell only assembiled tractors and I install them. It's up to the customer to wear them are not. Just remember safety.

Ronald
Ranch Hand Supply

TruChaos · Mar 3, 2006

Here's my two cents.

For anyone who doesn't think the seatbelt is important, consider the following. I was using my 284 to lift and pull a heavy crate. I connected a strap to each side of the FEL bucket to lift the crate. Unfortunately, I got one side of the strap just a little shorter than the other side and when I lifted the FEL bucket, without moving the tractor, the entire tractor pitched up on two wheels and nearly flipped over. Because I wasn't wearing a seatbelt I was thrown out of the seat and I caught the ROP's. The ROP's was the only thing which kept me from falling off the tractor.

While the tractor didn't go all the way over, it could have and would have probably crushed me between the ROP's and the ground.

This happened in a fraction of a second and completely unexpectedly.

After that experience, I installed the seat belt and use it religiously. I strongly encourage everyone to do the same.

This event happened so quickly and unexpectedly and while at a complete stand still, that I'm convinced wearing the seatbelt is essential.

RonMar · Mar 4, 2006

I think the odds are probably better with than without. Here is a pic that shows the belt attachment brackets bolted to the lower rear corners of the seat pan.

Harrygoodwrench · Mar 4, 2006

This seat belt use issue has been discussed many, many times. It is up to the operator to decide whether to use them or not.
Personally for myself, I use mine. Why? because they were hopefully intended to keep me within the ROPS safety zone in the event of a rollover.
Its a choice. I don't have the right to tell you to use it, or not to use it. I think for a liability issue, at least if its there, its there for use and thats what the manufacturer is concerned with.
I use mine and thats what I'm concerned with.

greg_g · Mar 4, 2006

( It is up to the operator to decide whether to use them or not. )
Thanks Harry. Folks you will seldom find marching rank and file with tractor seat belt advocates are real farmers who have to dismount/remount for a dozen or more gates per day. When I lived in Germany, the autobahns made me a true seat belt believer - for cars. But here in Kentucky, I happen to have a lot of gates.

Cabbed tractor operators have it even worse; stop, unbuckle, open door, climb down, open gate, climb back up, close door, buckle up, move 30 feet, stop, unbuckle, open door, climb down, close gate, climb back up, close door, buckle up. Repeat process at next gate.

//greg//

crazymike · Mar 4, 2006

wearing a seat belt in a cabbed tractor is less of a deal. You will still be injured in a roll over, but you will not be crushed unless you break through the glass. That said, a large ag tractor with a cab doing flat field work has very little chance of tipping. It's almost impossible to flip a tractor while plowing flat fields or cutting corn. The worse that can happen is you stop the tractor dead and hit the dash. Which hurts.

Not wearing one in a ROPs equipped CUT is incredibly stupid.

FYI, if you arn't wearing a seatbelt and have a ROPs, you might aswell not use a rops at all. The only thing the rops will save is a bent steering wheel.

In many cases of people not wearing seat belts in a roll over with rops are still crushed. Or result in broken necks, etc...

http://www.cdc.gov/nasd/docs/d000701-d000800/d000778/d000778.html

http://www.dhs.ca.gov/ohb/OHSEP/FACE/01CA002.htm

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-A 69-year-old equipment operator died when the tractor he was operating rolled-over as he attempted to make a left turn at the bottom of a steep ravine he had just descended.

-The victim was ejected and pinned between the tractors rollover protective structure (ROPS) and the ground.

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NO SEATBELT!

Lots more sad stories.
http://www.public-health.uiowa.edu/face/Face-main/Roster.htm

Personally, I believe everyone is entitled to their own decisions, even if they are stupid.

Ranch_Hand_Supp · Mar 4, 2006

Momboy007, I just sent you some Pictures of a spring seat..... sorry for the delay.

Seat belts are not for roll overs only.

To others that are on the fence about seat belts ...... one also should consider what would happen to you if your attachments get hung up on something and the tractor stops and you keeep going ...... very hard on the gut, knees, sprung wrist etc .... if you dont get thrown off.

Ask the guy who has bent the sh*t out of a scrape blade, plowing new ground, caught the edge/corner of a bush hog on a tree/post/building, sub soiling, draging log out of the woods etc ..... what happen to him when it happen.

It has happen to me more than once before tractors had ROPS systems.

Let us know how your installation goes.

Ronald
Ranch Hand Supply