Second tractor for manure spreading suggestions?

   / Second tractor for manure spreading suggestions? #11  
2000's are low 30's hp. 3000 is the 40hp class 1000 series Ford.


Ford 2000 Power:
Engine: 36 hp [26.8 kW] (Heck I was closer saying 40hp)

Drawbar (claimed): 28 hp [20.9 kW]

PTO (claimed): 31 hp [23.1 kW]

Drawbar (tested): 28.10 hp [21.0 kW]

PTO (tested): 32.09 hp [23.9 kW]

power test details ...
 
   / Second tractor for manure spreading suggestions? #12  
Ford 2000 Power:
Engine: 36 hp [26.8 kW] (Heck I was closer saying 40hp)

Drawbar (claimed): 28 hp [20.9 kW]

PTO (claimed): 31 hp [23.1 kW]

Drawbar (tested): 28.10 hp [21.0 kW]

PTO (tested): 32.09 hp [23.9 kW]

power test details ...

Heck... I was closer saying low 30's....Who gives a rats behind what the ENGINE hp is..... It takes a little more than just an engine to make a tractor. Tell me what tools you'll be hooking directly to the flywheel? Oh yeah, NONE..... PTO HP is, and has been the figure used by farmers for years.

The 3000 is the 40hp tractor in the X000 series Fords.....

Quoting engine hp on tractors is something made popular in recent years so the hp number looks more significant. It appears a little more impressive when you're looking at hp numbers that are a bit small to begin with.

"Back in the day" farmers quoted how many plows a tractor would handle.....Somewhere around the late 40's/early 50's, pto hp became the benchmark. I never heard anyone quoting engine hp until roughly the same time compact tractors came on the market.
 
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   / Second tractor for manure spreading suggestions? #13  
.Hasnt been hard to start in winter

You live in TEXAS......Try colder climates. The OP lives in CANADA....There is just a tad bit of difference in winter climate from where YOU live to where HE lives. 2000 and 3000 gassers were notoriously cold natured tractors WHEN YOU ACTUALLY HAVE REALLY COLD WEATHER..... ;) BTDT, lived with a cold natured 3000 for 34 years. Once you got it started, it had to sit and warm up for a while before it would move without dying if temps were in the 20's or lower. Below zero, it took a long time to warm up enough so that it was usable. Did so from the day it was new. (Temperamental carb.....) I bought it new so I'd have a "easy starting gas tractor" to feed with in the winter. As I said earlier, I usually ended up using my MF150 DIESEL because it ALWAYS started easier and was ready to go once started.

I had a 3400 gas loader/backhoe that was even more cold natured than the 3000

Don't get me wrong....I'm not saying a 2000/3000 gasser is a bad tractor. They're great little tractors. I'm simply trying to dispell the incorrect notion that gassers are easier starting than diesels in the cold winter climates. Simply NOT TRUE as a "broad strokes" general statement.
 
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   / Second tractor for manure spreading suggestions? #14  
you want a deere and you know it,

it does not take much to pull a spreader, and if your current tractor is a newer cut, it will not pull a load as easily as some of the older classics

if you want a fun tractor that is reliable and easy to find parts for the early two cylinder deeres are all great canidates, in your price range

the gas enjines are reliable and easy starting in cold weather, where any older diesel will require electricity to keep them warm for cranking, in the winter , if they are not started with a gas pup or either

and the sound of an old johnny popper is just something that the 3-6 cyl. enjines can not compete with

anythong from a mt thru the 30 series have parts available from many , many vendors that want break the bank like buying the parts at the local deere store

then you could be farming to the rythm of a johhny popper song

i sold the 60 and the plows in the first video for $2500, to a local neihbor who uses it hard every day on a 250 acre vegtable farm, try hooking the cut to 3x14s and feel the difference in old 35 hp, versus new 35hp
‪1954 john deere 60‬‏ - YouTube


‪John Deere 530 Plowing‬‏ - YouTube
 
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   / Second tractor for manure spreading suggestions? #15  
As other posters have said, don't be afraid of an old gasser for your manure spreading. I have an old wooden PTO driven John Deere manure spreader that I pull with a 1951 Ferguson TO-20. I only use the Fergy for spreading manure and some brush hogging, so it gets very few hours of use a year. And it's so simple a non-mechanical person like me can do the occasionally neccessary repairs. Now my TO-20 is probably too small for your spreader, but the various old gassers mentioned will probably do you fine for the occasional use that you'll give it. And I live in upstate New York. My little Fergy has had no trouble starting in below zero temperatures, when I've occasionally gotten cabin fever and just decided to spread some manure on top of the snow. Don't ignore those Masey Fergusons that you mentioned, if my little Fergy (which is older than Masey Harris and Ferguson becoming one company) is any indication those Maseys should be pretty tough tractors that you may get for a pretty good price. I have nothing against Deeres, but every time I considered buying a vintage one, I felt I was paying a lot more for the green paint. So my vintage tractors became my Fergy and an Oliver 1550 (Oliver, the other green tractor) which was my main workhorse until I decided I was too old for plowing snow in an open cab in upstate NY winters and I bought a Kubota with a cab.
 
   / Second tractor for manure spreading suggestions? #16  
Im pretty sure he said my 34hp tractor.Guess he was wrong to its only a 29pto,so he would have a high 20s hp tractor that he pulls the manure spreader with.;)

Even tractorhouse is wrong cause they list there tractors by engine hp and not pto!!!
 
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   / Second tractor for manure spreading suggestions? #17  
In my area, you can find a fair JD 2010 or 2510 for that price range-easier if you would consder a gas engine. That sum will also get you a 420,430,520, or 530 JD in good condition. I think any of those tractors would pull your spreader as well or better than a L3400.

Other brands tend to be cheaper here. That money would buy a really nice Case 430 or 530, a D-12 or 14 AC, or a 30-50 hp International or MF.

Will
 
   / Second tractor for manure spreading suggestions? #18  
My primary tractor around the farm is a L3400 which generally serves me quite well


You are not that far from me, correct?? Have you been by Connect yet?? (DS Downham, the MF dealer by the Husky...) They are a group of 9 dealers working off of one inventory. Go see Shaune, he may have something at one of the other lots that may fit your needs nicely.
 
   / Second tractor for manure spreading suggestions?
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Thats a heck of a small world I think. A couple of years ago we had a boarder at our place and she said her brother with the same name worked there. Is his last name Tearne?

I am quite close by to that dealership.
 
   / Second tractor for manure spreading suggestions? #20  
canoetrpr said:
Thats a heck of a small world I think. A couple of years ago we had a boarder at our place and she said her brother with the same name worked there. Is his last name Tearne?

I am quite close by to that dealership.

Yupp, that'd be him. Great guy, we have bought both tractors from him. He is fair, and honest, great owners too. DS Downham has a great rep. I am by there every day. :)
 

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