I didn't come across one snake in all this grass which explains the hundreds of mice running for their lives! The only snakes we get out here are garder, gopher, king and rattler. Think it was too cold for any of them to come out, it had rained Thur, Fri and Sat night. Had the company of a Red tailed hawk all day, it was like an "all you can eat" buffet for him with all them mice! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif