shenniu "bison 25" ??

[goffracing]

shenniu \"bison 25\" ??

anyone have any info on these tractors?
like where to get parts im in alabama and my father inlaw has one just sitting and going to waste because it needs to have a motor rebuild and he now has a big kubota tractor and has said i could fix and use/have so any help would be great it looks in good shape just needs to be used..

 

[JINMA224XR]

Re: shenniu \"bison 25\" ??

<font color="blue">anyone have any info on these tractors?
like where to get parts im in alabama and my father inlaw has one just sitting and going to waste because it needs to have a motor rebuild </font>

Hey goffracing,

The only one that I know of is: Darrell Harp Interprises in Red Bay, Alabama. That's where I got my parts from, when I had mine 1990-97.

Talk to Marselle, he's a really nice fellow, and tell him Joe sent you, and tell him, I said to treat you right. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Hopefully, he still works there, and if he does, he is the only one that you want to deal with.

Best of Luck &
Have a nice day,
Joe /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[goffracing]

Re: shenniu \"bison 25\" ??

thanks for the info joe i will try to get ahold of them on monday...

any thoughts on the tractor itself?? is it worth fixing up??

 

[bluechip]

Re: shenniu \"bison 25\" ??

The Hardy Diesel is also Shenniu, they are in California. if all else fails you could contact the factory and they may be able to tell you who might have parts or even ship you direct.
Shenniu tractor compnay

 

[jakeb47]

Re: shenniu \"bison 25\" ??

Found this url over at the NY state board, sems to be up.
http://www.machiavelli.com/bison/bison_a.html

Good luck.

 

[JINMA224XR]

Re: shenniu \"bison 25\" ??

<font color="blue">any thoughts on the tractor itself?? is it worth fixing up?? </font>

Hey Goffracing,

Well, I can understand that since it was your Father's Tractor, that it may have sentimental value.

If it has Power Steering that would be a plus. Bear in mind that you can get a new 254 Shinniu for about 5 thousand. I consider them the First Generation of Chinese Tractors. They are 2 cylinder, which vibrate a lot, no canopy, no wheel weights, no front end weights, However they pull really good and are powerful tractors in their size.

One alternative avenue, might be to donate the tractor to a Technical Trade School for the engine technician's class, and use that donation in on your taxes. With the saving's on your taxes, you could use that money's toward a new Jinma or Kama.

The Jinma's are smooth running 3 cylinder engines, with Power Steering, 4wd, canopy, wheel weights, front end weights, suspension seat(optional). and a 254 Jinma can still be had for around 6 thousand.

Heck my little 3 cylinder runs so smooth and along with the suspension seat, I feel like I'm riding on a cloud, course that's after I've a few sips. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

The new Jinma's and Kama's are a much improved generation of Chinese Tractor, and they are like a night and day difference in workmanship and operation, over the Early Shinniu's.

It will have to be your call though, and I wish you the best of luck, in which ever way that you decide to go.

Have a nice day,
Joe /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[kevanos]

Re: shenniu \"bison 25\" ??

But http://www.machiavelli.com/bison/bison_a.html hasn't been updated for QUITE a while.

 

[GDC]

Re: shenniu "bison 25" ??

This may be late info, but try Jim's Farm Equipment in Gallipoli,Ohio. www.merchantcircle.com/business/Jims.Farm.Equipment

They have parts for these tractors at reasonable prices. I have aShenniu 254 that i bought new back in '95 and it is still going, although it doesn't like cold weather (it is 14 degrees out with a 25 mph wind as i write this and the tractor was a bear to start.

 

[lostlisa00]

Re: shenniu "bison 25" ??

I just ordered my parts from Sherry at Darrell Harp Enterprise I needed 2 hoses, 1 hose was going to cost $30.00 and the other $100.00 to have made locally. I'm getting them both shipped to me for $28.52. I am so excited. :thumbsup:

 

[ynnadresoob]

Re: shenniu "bison 25" ??

I have a 25 hp biison by shenniu has a busted housing am looking for someone who has a tractor for sale for parts don,t know what year it is has a good engine and transmission any help will be appreciated

 

[Rich Waugh]

Re: shenniu "bison 25" ??

you say it has a "busted housing" - what is a housing?

 

[ynnadresoob]

Re: shenniu "bison 25" ??

Housing is the rock shaft housing whitch some people may call the lift arm housing the housing is the outer metal shell that holds the arms in place

 

[Bob Rooks]

Re: shenniu "bison 25" ??

You mean the three point hitch lift arms? Front end loader lift arms?
Rock shaft as in rocker shaft? Lift arms as in rocker arms? Housing as in valve cover? :confused2:

 

[greg_g]

Re: shenniu "bison 25" ??

I thought at first he meant the valve cover Bob, they're thick heavy cast items on these machines. But I eventually figured out he means the hydraulic sump under the tractor seat

//greg//

 

[Rich Waugh]

Re: shenniu "bison 25" ??

Ah, yes - what I call the "lift box" or TPH sump. On my tractor that is a casting and if it broke I'd first try brazing it back together. Properly done, brazing will be stronger than the original metal. Silicon bronze rod and a TIG torch is my preferred method for repairing broken cast iron items, though malleable cast iron can be welded quite successfully using high-nickel filler rod and a DC arc welder.

I've seen a large number of old industrial machines with castings that had been broken and repaired and then used three shifts a day for decades.

 

[greg_g]

Re: shenniu "bison 25" ??

Unless it's the casting around the (rock) shafts themselves that's split/cracked. Given that's where the oil seals must seat, I'd say offhand that area is probably near on impossible to repair. I'm bettin' that's why the poster is searching for a replacement sump.

Not that I'm blaming the poster, he may be new to such forums. But I think you'll agree that we haven't been given very much info to work with here.

//greg//

 

[Rich Waugh]

Re: shenniu "bison 25" ??

True that, Greg. It can sometimes be a bit frustrating to have to drag info out one piece at a time, but then I tend to err on the other side of the fence and provide reams of useless information when I have a question. :confused2:

Even if the sump/housing is cracked right through the seal housings a really good welder/machinist should be able to repair it and re-cut any seal/bearing seats. If it was mine I'd do it without a qualm, since I have the die grinders, milling machine, lathe, welders, etc. - but if I had to pay someone else to do the job right I'm quite sure it would be cheaper to just buy a new one - and have it shipped from China. There's a world of difference between welding/brazing a high-quality malleable iron casting and welding a Chinese gray cast iron.

Of course, if I did it, it would be painted and pinstriped, too. :laughing:

 

[ynnadresoob]

Re: shenniu "bison 25" ??

You guys are finally getting the message and at least talking about the right housing . Where it is cracked i thing it would be diffacult to weld and make it hold.I,m not saying it,s not possible.And if that turns out to be the only way out i may try it.But i,d like to try to find a used one if i can .So any info on who might have one would be appreciated

 

[Bob Rooks]

Re: shenniu "bison 25" ??

But i,d like to try to find a used one if i can .So any info on who might have one would be appreciated

Just out of curiosity, have you priced out a new one including shipping?
Might not be as bad as you think.

 

[ynnadresoob]

Re: shenniu "bison 25" ??

No i have not priced any parts yet everything on my tractor is written in chinese except for 25 Bison on the hood so i was afraid i,d have a hard time ordering parts for it .there are also someparts broken on the inside haven,t taken it apart to asess the internal damage